Cyberpunk 2077

[rastaban75]

I like the handling for the bikes. I almost never drive cars due to handling issues. I stick to bikes.

I'd say with the exception of MaiMai P126 (the tiny cute red vehicle) bikes handle much better, yes.

On my last playthrough, I played around with some of those random missions to steal cars and bring them to some warehouse, the ones given by Muamar 'El Capitan of Awful Hair' Reyes. He got annoyed at me when I brought cars after the time expired, but some cars wouldn't handle as I'd like them to. On top of that, enemies spawning had no issue ramming their vehicles on mine, wasting time. I got more aggressive after some such missions, to the point that some of the stolen vehicles I brought to Reyes were visibly shorter on delivery. It was so funny getting his praise when I brought him cars that were missing parts or had smaller engines due to the fact they got crushed a lot - all because I did the mission in time.

Favorite car in the game for me was the Coyote btw.

 

[docSpock]

The Coyote is a great car. I’m partial to the standard Shion, Javelina and blacked out Colby myself.

 

[DevilDancer]

I like the one that looks like the Batmobile and Johnny's Porsche. Other than those I drive bikes.

Should I play FL on Series X soonish or wait until I replace my laptop next year ? I should wait and play it on a 40XX, right?

 

[-Troopa-]

Should I play FL on Series X soonish or wait until I replace my laptop next year ? I should wait and play it on a 40XX, right?

I've actually been wondering the same thing. Whether to play it on PS5/X, or on the new gaming laptop (4060).

I'll probably go with console though. Just more convenient. I imagine it looks great either way. And this: Cyberpunk 2077 On PS5 Makes Great Use Of DualSense’s Haptics (kotaku.com)

 

[IgglooV2]

I hated driving in the game for the most part, due to the wonky handling, but it improved when I got the Javelina.

 

[DeadLazy]

Handling doesn’t bother me at all. And few things in video games are more satisfying than pulling up to an NCPD alert and shock and awe’ing the perps with missiles from your vehicle.

I love the chases too. I’m not saying the handling is good, but it is fun.

 

[docSpock]

Working on my first Panam mission. CP feels like a whole new game. I think I’m going to pour some TLC into this run and make it my final.

 

[rastaban75]

Has anyone tried the game with the 2.10 patch? They keep adding new things into the game e.g.

* The ability to ride the metro. I tried it, very nice
* Car races. Haven't tried that yet
* The option to invite your significant other to an apartment you own to be, as Homer Simpson would put it, "intamit" with them. I invited Panam to my downtown apartment (to impress her) and for some reason the "mission" glitched out for me and I can't use the elevator to get there
* Johnny's Porche in a colorful convertible form. You just buy it from the terminals, but then a mini-mission triggers to actually get it

 

[docSpock]

I love the metro. I’m starting to get a hang of the new abilities. This time I’m playing a netrunner who gets up-close and personal with a shotgun. It’s an interesting combination.

 

[DeadLazy]

Finished Phantom Liberty and loved it. Still mopping up stuff on that character before finishing, yet again.

 

[rastaban75]

It took them several years, but CDPR apparently added the best thing in the game: Sad Keanu riding the metro

And yes, this is real.

 

[DevilDancer]

I was going to mess around with the character creator tonight and maybe start a new run with the 2.0 rules, but my Xbox needed a 60 gig update (!!) and my laptop didn't have it installed at all, so now I'm downloading on both.

I'm interested in cross-play options, but if I buy Phantom Liberty on one it won't work on the other. At least that's what I've read.

 

[DeadLazy]

I was going to mess around with the character creator tonight and maybe start a new run with the 2.0 rules, but my Xbox needed a 60 gig update (!!) and my laptop didn't have it installed at all, so now I'm downloading on both.

I'm interested in cross-play options, but if I buy Phantom Liberty on one it won't work on the other. At least that's what I've read.

60 gig update? Hmmm…. How fast do you guys download out there?

I get like 800-900 down when getting stuff off XBL. It’s so fast even 100 gig games are done in no time.

 

[docSpock]

Even though I have 1 gb service the fastest I see from Microsoft is around 200 mb down. I wonder if my ISP throttles game content.

 

[DeadLazy]

Even though I have 1 gb service the fastest I see from Microsoft is around 200 mb down. I wonder if my ISP throttles game content.

I’m plugged into my modem for my console. I don’t use wifi. Maybe that’s why?

 

[docSpock]

Possibly. My other wi-fi devices have no problem but maybe the Xbox radio is slow.

 

[DevilDancer]

Idk, I have slow Internet but it's pretty cheap.

 

[DevilDancer]

Got started on my 3rd playthrough. I was following a ninja build guide, but I don't know if I'll stick with it. I need to see how improved the melee combat is.

 

[IgglooV2]

With Epic having a big winter sale this may be my moment to grab the game on PC.

 

[DevilDancer]

Played the flathead mission for a third time and had it unfold differently again. 3 playthroughs, 3 outcomes. Neat.

 

[DeadLazy]

Played the flathead mission for a third time and had it unfold differently again. 3 playthroughs, 3 outcomes. Neat.

There is so much new content. I come across so much stuff I can’t recall seeing over the years leading up to 2.0. It won’t feel “fresh”, but it might feel a good bit different.

 

[DevilDancer]

I got cross-save to work, so that's nice. I still think it looks better on PC, even though the Series X is objectively more powerful than my laptop.

What the hell happened to armor? Enemies don't seem to drop clothes anymore and nothing has an armor score? I'm so confused.

 

[DeadLazy]

I got cross-save to work, so that's nice. I still think it looks better on PC, even though the Series X is objectively more powerful than my laptop.

What the hell happened to armor? Enemies don't seem to drop clothes anymore and nothing has an armor score? I'm so confused.

Armor is now based off your implants. Each implant will have an armor rating and you’ll see your total on the right hand side of screen, opposite the new cyber deck capacity heads up.

Some cloths will have bonuses and it generally makes sense. A bullet proof vest will add some armor bonus but most cloths will not. I think a gas mask might have bonuses like you’d expect.

It’s a good system. Better than before, more manageable and sensical really.

-A lot more cyber implant options with greater effect on gameplay
-grenades and health are now on cooldown and not 1 to 1 from inventory. If you find a new grenade or health pack, it will be added to cooldown. Swap them as always.
-Enemies drop data sticks that might contain exp for a skill (level skills as you use them. Check skill menu) or an upgrade for your cyber deck capacity. This helps someone like me who hits the level cap and street cred cap long before I ever finish the game. Still progression for me as I run around doing everything.

 

[DevilDancer]

Here we go. Picked PC after waffling for a while. I figure if I ever want to play it again it will be on PC, plus there was a small discount on GOG.

 

[IgglooV2]

I just bought it too, for PC. I'm back! I am going to try a totally different path this time after beating the original with a corpo path and melee build. It was frankly way easy and OP.

 

[DevilDancer]

Did the Alt quest tonight and finally got the Phantom Liberty call.

That Alt quest always makes me laugh. Johnny's ego is mind blowingly huge. And it's still believable because it fits his personality.

 

[DevilDancer]

Got a different outcome to the crucifixion quest tonight. I told the corpo lady to fuck off and she fired me before the main event.

I was fine with that. One crucifixion per game is enough.

That's another quest where I've had 3 different outcomes in three playthroughs.

 

[DevilDancer]

The Dogtown content is pretty great. I just met Hands in person after doing his 3 side quests.

I really like the loot missions, and the rewards are great.

My only concern is that I'm going to be way overpowered once I go back to the base game. The hacking and armor system revamps have made me into a god.

 

[IgglooV2]

I haven't got too far, but I find playing the main campaign to be like drinking castor oil or something, it is something I have to endure to enjoy the actual part I want to play, which is just the sandbox of this world.

 

[rastaban75]

I do have a similar issue with the main story. It's not a bad story by all means, or badly told, but I always felt that the ticking clock element works against the openess of the world and the rest of the stuff you can do. When there is something so urgent to do, the motivation to pursue missions is problematic. This is how I felt at least.

The Dogtown as a sort of self-contained smaller world within a world felt much more consistent to me. I could forget about the ticking clock a bit more and so I could enjoy all the weirdness and side-missions.

One can claim that the game is not much different to other story-driven games in that it has "this one important thing" to do, but the urgency in CP2077 is far beyond anything else I can recall.

 

[docSpock]

I do have a similar issue with the main story. It's not a bad story by all means, or badly told, but I always felt that the ticking clock element works against the openess of the world and the rest of the stuff you can do. When there is something so urgent to do, the motivation to pursue missions is problematic. This is how I felt at least.

Agreed. I understand why developers do this but the urgency in Cyberpunk is probably the most egregious example of this design.

 

[IgglooV2]

You articulated it much better than I did. That's exactly it, @rastaban75. I feel dragged into the main quest by the Johnny Silverhand game mechanic, and I already played it and that's not why I am back in this world, so I find it frustrating.

 

[DevilDancer]

I'm so annoyed with CP this evening.

I started the Peralez mission, which means working with River. River absolutely sucks, so I want to piss him off whenever possible. We're at a mission where I'm supposed to sneak into a warehouse, so I walk up to the first guard I see and blow his head off with a shotgun.

Does River get pissed or try to lecture me (which would be funny)? No, he goes all white knight and comes to my rescue. Does he think V needs rescue? V is a GOD OF NIGHT CITY. No one rescues V, she is the rescuer.

I hate River so much, I wish this game would let me drive him into the ocean.

EDIT: It's petty, but I learned that the EMP pulse I trigger with overclock messes with his implants, so I've been doing that regularly.

 

[-Troopa-]

I hate River so much, I wish this game would let me drive him into the ocean.

That’s by design. It’s natural for a river to lead to the ocean.

 

[DeadLazy]

I'm so annoyed with CP this evening.

I started the Peralez mission, which means working with River. River absolutely sucks, so I want to piss him off whenever possible. We're at a mission where I'm supposed to sneak into a warehouse, so I walk up to the first guard I see and blow his head off with a shotgun.

Does River get pissed or try to lecture me (which would be funny)? No, he goes all white knight and comes to my rescue. Does he think V needs rescue? V is a GOD OF NIGHT CITY. No one rescues V, she is the rescuer.

I hate River so much, I wish this game would let me drive him into the ocean.

EDIT: It's petty, but I learned that the EMP pulse I trigger with overclock messes with his implants, so I've been doing that regularly.

Have you played a chic character with him? Then he’s really annoying. I can’t stand the final mission with the kids.

 

[DevilDancer]

Have you played a chic character with him? Then he’s really annoying. I can’t stand the final mission with the kids.

Yeah, all my Vs have been ladies. I like the VA.

 

[DevilDancer]

Were the late-game Arasaka hit squads in the original code? I don't remember them, but they're fun. I got jumped by one tonight and had fun taking them apart.

River still sucks.

Every time I get hit by a car, which is kind of often, I'm compelled to waste the driver.

 

[DevilDancer]

Another one I'm not sure was in the base game - a Death Stranding reference.

 

[docSpock]

Yeah that’s in the base game as is Kojima himself.

 

[DevilDancer]

I know a lot of you guys liked Phantom Liberty and I don't want to yuck your yum but... yeesh. This ending is truly awful. They took the worst part of Metroid Dred (EMMI) and paired it with cliche metaphysical DLC bullshit. Ugh.

I liked Dogtown and the new side quests, and I loved the 2.0 patch changes, but the last 1.5 hours of this have been terrible. I had to turn it off because I'm running out of time before bed.

I'll finish... eventually.

 

[DeadLazy]

I know a lot of you guys liked Phantom Liberty and I don't want to yuck your yum but... yeesh. This ending is truly awful. They took the worst part of Metroid Dred (EMMI) and paired it with cliche metaphysical DLC bullshit. Ugh.

I liked Dogtown and the new side quests, and I loved the 2.0 patch changes, but the last 1.5 hours of this have been terrible. I had to turn it off because I'm running out of time before bed.

I'll finish... eventually.

Is that where the thing hunts you down? It’s Alien ISO shit I think. So it can be extra annoying as it’s unpredictable. That AI behaves like no other in the game. But that could be the wrong part I am thinking of.

 

[DevilDancer]

Is that where the thing hunts you down? It’s Alien ISO shit I think. So it can be extra annoying as it’s unpredictable. That AI behaves like no other in the game. But that could be the wrong part I am thinking of.

Yeah, the maintenance bot stalks you through the facility as you're trying to hack a door open. It's a huge departure from everything else in the game.

Any dev that proposes an instafail stealth segment should be fired immediately.

And the worst part is it ignores established game mechanics - the bot can see you even if you're using the camouflage tool, and it doesn't give you the alert tools (visual and sound cues) you get with normal enemies.

Yuck.

 

[HotDoommaN]

Got to say the Phantom Liberty Ending might be one of the best endings I've experienced and the best one overall for CP, fits the narrative very well. A very poignant ending. Thats me though.

 

[DeadLazy]

Got to say the Phantom Liberty Ending might be one of the best endings I've experienced and the best one overall for CP, fits the narrative very well. A very poignant ending. Thats me though.

The story and all but that mission is broken. I see what they were doing, and that AI is Alien ISO style. It doesn’t spawn and respawn or there aren’t set pieces. It’s there hunting you. But l agree with DD, it totally breaks the rules you’re used to out of no place and unless it’s a full blown stealth game, stealth missions and critical failures do suck ass.

Cool idea bad execution but … CP is awesome.

Playing STALKER and even its raw, gaming archeology form, it’s so good. I don’t hate FPS. I do hate modern FPS. Mostly anyway.

 

[HotDoommaN]

The story and all but that mission is broken. I see what they were doing, and that AI is Alien ISO style. It doesn’t spawn and respawn or there aren’t set pieces. It’s there hunting you. But l agree with DD, it totally breaks the rules you’re used to out of no place and unless it’s a full blown stealth game, stealth missions and critical failures do suck ass.

Cool idea bad execution but … CP is awesome.

Playing STALKER and even its raw, gaming archeology form, it’s so good. I don’t hate FPS. I do hate modern FPS. Mostly anyway.

I think STALKER was ahead of its time in terms of open-world design. It never really felt constrictive and I also agree with Rasta on this. The urgency narrative doesn't really fit with the openness of CP. Night City, for me, is the most beautifully crafted open work map and it needs time to be explored and enjoyed, something that goes against the story...since well...you have a ticking bomb in your head.

Thats why I like Pacific Drive a lot, it reminded me of STALKER - minus the monsters.

 

[docSpock]

I stalled on this because my radio stopped working and I have no idea how to restore it other than loading an earlier character. Maybe I should just skip to Dogtown…

 

[docSpock]

Finally working through Dogtown proper. The Ghost in the Shell reference is appreciated. I then unlocked the car missions I guess and I am absolutely here for any mission that lets me steal cars.