Metal Gear Solid 4 holds 2 Guinness World Records for longest cutscenes in video game history.

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

At 71 minutes of length. The longest individual cutscene is 27 minutes, which happens to be within that 71 minute sequence of the same game.

MGS4 holds 2 world records for:

1.) Longest cutscene in a video game, at 27 minutes.
2.) Longest cutscene sequence in a video game, at 71 minutes.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-5000/longest-cutscene-in-a-video-game/

MGS4 is also the 5th most expensive video game ever made, with a development budget of $60 million dollars.​

 

[Solid_Coon]

I know a lot of people complain about the cutscenes in the game, but I mean that's what defines MGS in a way and I didn't really have a problem with it.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

I know a lot of people complain about the cutscenes in the game, but I mean that's what defines MGS in a way and I didn't really have a problem with it.

Me neither. It's just that people are bothered to think. Kinda sad really that most people have the attention span of gnats.

 

[Batzi]

a 2008 game that destroys many games that came out in 2012 and that are not out yet xD

 

[xorx]

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...t-video-games-marathon-playing-a-stealth-game


What a true patriot.

 

[Solid_Coon]

Yeah exactly and I'm glad that the criticism doesn't bother Kojima that much, because MGSV and Ground Zeroes are already looking cut scene heavy which is awesome.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid

Sales figures:

Metal Gear Solid (1998) - 6 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 2 (2001) - 7 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 3 (2004) 3.6 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008) - 5.5 million copies.

It says that 1 out of every 5 PS3 owners has MGS4 and that it boosted PS3 sales in the UK by 700%.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

Just delete this post because it will end up a triple post. It will take me a little while to compile the data, so just delete this post please.

@Four0oz2Freedom please.

 

[Batzi]

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid

Sales figures:

Metal Gear Solid (1998) - 6 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 2 (2001) - 7 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 3 (2004) 3.6 million copies
Metal Gear Solid 4 (2008) - 5.5 million copies.

It says that 1 out of every 5 PS3 owners has MGS4 and that it boosted PS3 sales in the UK by 700%.

^ numbers not accurate. MGS4 sold over 5M in 2010. You are telling me that only 500K bought MGS4 in a span of 2 years and a half? I don't think so. Have you seen the PS3 sales figures lately? Do you know how big of a difference those figures changed since 2010? I think MGS4 is between 6M-7M by now.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

Total Metal Gear sales. If there are special editions or re-releases, I combine those numbers for a total number. This includes things like HD editions, MGS VR Missions, Substance, Document, Integral, etc. Exception is Twin Snakes.

Metal Gear Solid - 7.29 million
Metal Gear Solid 2 - 7.36 million
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 4.88 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 - 5.75 million

Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel - 0.07 million
Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes - 0.47 million
Metal Gear AC!D games - 1.03 million
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - 1.81 million
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - 2.08 million

 

[Solid_Coon]

I remember when they packaged it with the ps3 for a time. I'm sure they made some big money off of that also.

 

[Batzi]

I remember when they packaged it with the ps3 for a time. I'm sure they made some big money off of that also.

apparently bundles are not included in sales count.

 

[Stuit]

I for one think that the cut scenes were quite excessive in MGS4, they sometimes seem longer than the actual game sequences. That said, nothing in MGS4 was nearly as bad as the hours of staring at a blank codec screen in the opening to MGS3.
According to Kojima MGSV will be going for a more balanced experience, that's good news.

 

[Solid_Coon]

I remember when they packaged it with the ps3 for a time. I'm sure they made some big money off of that also.

apparently bundles are not included in sales count.

Yeah that's why I'm saying we should kind take into account, that if the bundle wasn't available some of those people would have just straight up bought the game. But I'm sure Sony made a deal with Konami to cover this.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

I for one think that the cut scenes were quite excessive in MGS4, they sometimes seem longer than the actual game sequences. That said, nothing in MGS4 was nearly as bad as the hours of staring at a blank codec screen in the opening to MGS3.
According to Kojima MGSV will be going for a more balanced experience, that's good news.

MGS1, MGS3, and MGSPW had reasonable cutscene frequencies and lengths. MGS2 and MGS4 were the ones that were notorious among everyone outside the fanbase, and those two games are frequently cited for criticism.

I put this same thread on the Vesti, and the thread turned into MGS bashing and a Halo circlejerk.

 

[Ayershole]

Total Metal Gear sales. If there are special editions or re-releases, I combine those numbers for a total number. This includes things like HD editions, MGS VR Missions, Substance, Document, Integral, etc. Exception is Twin Snakes.

Metal Gear Solid - 7.29 million
Metal Gear Solid 2 - 7.36 million
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 4.88 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 - 5.75 million

Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel - 0.07 million
Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes - 0.47 million
Metal Gear AC!D games - 1.03 million
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - 1.81 million
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - 2.08 million

I expected Ghost Babel to be a little lower that the rest, but not even 1m? And same for Twin Snakes? Crazy. Still got my copy of GB!

 

[makeshiftnh]

Total Metal Gear sales. If there are special editions or re-releases, I combine those numbers for a total number. This includes things like HD editions, MGS VR Missions, Substance, Document, Integral, etc. Exception is Twin Snakes.

Metal Gear Solid - 7.29 million
Metal Gear Solid 2 - 7.36 million
Metal Gear Solid 3 - 4.88 million
Metal Gear Solid 4 - 5.75 million

Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel - 0.07 million
Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes - 0.47 million
Metal Gear AC!D games - 1.03 million
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - 1.81 million
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - 2.08 million

I can't believe MGS3 is so low. That's still my favorite all-around MGS.

 

[Stuit]

MGS1, MGS3, and MGSPW had reasonable cutscene frequencies and lengths. MGS2 and MGS4 were the ones that were notorious among everyone outside the fanbase, and those two games are frequently cited for criticism.

The thing MGS4 did was cut down on the mandatory codec sessions. Overall, MGS2 was the worst in this regard, but MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

 

[drawingguts]

speaking of mgs4. anyone want to know what happens to old snake after mgs4?

ill understand if you hate me

 

[Revolver_Ocelot_X]

I can't believe MGS3 is so low. That's still my favorite all-around MGS.

MGS2 backlash hurt its sales in its initial release. I just think there were people who said, "Never again" after being disappointed in MGS2. Maybe they ended up playing MGS3 at some point by either renting it or borrowing it from a friend, but I don't think they were lining up in droves on day one for MGS3 the way they were in 2001 for Sons of Liberty. MGS3 got great reviews and positive word of mouth from people who actually played the game. But for anyone who didn't play either of these games, it's their loss. They're both excellent.

 

[drawingguts]

I was disappointed at first when they started releasing info on mgs3 and you weren't going to find out what happens to snake and raiden. so my expectations were low... then i played mgs3 and my god..so good. i just love mgs2 so much. but 3 is so good. ahh but ones the best... but ahh (again) mgs4 pulls it all together.

 

[makeshiftnh]

MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

What was ridiculous about it? It was long, but it was mission briefing so that's kind of necessary.

I was disappointed at first when they started releasing info on mgs3 and you weren't going to find out what happens to snake and raiden. so my expectations were low... then i played mgs3 and my god..so good. i just love mgs2 so much. but 3 is so good. ahh but ones the best... but ahh (again) mgs4 pulls it all together.

Plot:
MGS1
MGS3
MGS2
MGS4

Setting:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

Characters (first appearance):
MGS3/MGS1
MGS2
MGS4

Boss Fights:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

Gameplay:
MGS4
MGS3
MGS2
MGS1

 

[deleted-1085394]

At 71 minutes of length. The longest individual cutscene is 27 minutes, which happens to be within that 71 minute sequence of the same game.​

MGS4 holds 2 world records for:​

1.) Longest cutscene in a video game, at 27 minutes.​

2.) Longest cutscene sequence in a video game, at 71 minutes.​

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-5000/longest-cutscene-in-a-video-game/​

MGS4 is also the 5th most expensive video game ever made, with a development budget of $60 million dollars.​

Was MGS2 the previous record holder?

I was disappointed at first when they started releasing info on mgs3 and you weren't going to find out what happens to snake and raiden. so my expectations were low... then i played mgs3 and my god..so good. i just love mgs2 so much. but 3 is so good. ahh but ones the best... but ahh (again) mgs4 pulls it all together.

That's the reason why I didn't like MGS3 when I picked it up at launch. I had to wait 7 years for that MGS2 cliffhanger to be resolved. It messed up the flow of the story, I think and it added more questions than answers, to which then MGS4 had to tie everything together and became a longer game than MGS1, MGS2, and MGS3 combined.

MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

What was ridiculous about it? It was long, but it was mission briefing so that's kind of necessary.

I was disappointed at first when they started releasing info on mgs3 and you weren't going to find out what happens to snake and raiden. so my expectations were low... then i played mgs3 and my god..so good. i just love mgs2 so much. but 3 is so good. ahh but ones the best... but ahh (again) mgs4 pulls it all together.

Plot:
MGS1
MGS3
MGS2
MGS4

Setting:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

Characters (first appearance):
MGS3/MGS1
MGS2
MGS4

Boss Fights:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

Gameplay:
MGS4
MGS3
MGS2
MGS1

You just opened up a can of worms.

 

[makeshiftnh]

You just opened up a can of worms.

Bring it on.

 

[Batzi]

MGS1, MGS3, and MGSPW had reasonable cutscene frequencies and lengths. MGS2 and MGS4 were the ones that were notorious among everyone outside the fanbase, and those two games are frequently cited for criticism.

The thing MGS4 did was cut down on the mandatory codec sessions. Overall, MGS2 was the worst in this regard, but MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

Nothing about MGS3 was ridiculous. This game was almost perfect.

 

[Stuit]

The opening was far from perfect. Trust me on this one.

 

[makeshiftnh]

The opening was far from perfect. Trust me on this one.

No. Give us any reasoning at all.

 

[Batzi]

The opening was far from perfect. Trust me on this one.

the opening was amazing! You make no sense whatsoever.

 

[ghos2]

I'm with Stuit. Snake Eater's introductory/briefing segments were fairly ridiculous. The airplane/halo jump sequence was great, but everything else was poorly executed exposition. Granted, there was quite a bit of information that needed to be conveyed to the player, but I think it could have been done better. It's been a good while since I've actually watched/listened to MGS3's introduction in its entirety. I just want to get to the mission.

MGS4 is the worst when it comes to cutscenes though, by far.

 

[deleted-1085394]

You just opened up a can of worms.

Bring it on.

I'm not going to bother because everyone will take your side. I'm always in the minority.

 

[deleted-1085394]

I'm with Stuit. Snake Eater's introductory/briefing segments were fairly ridiculous. The airplane/halo jump sequence was great, but everything else was poorly executed exposition. Granted, there was quite a bit of information that needed to be conveyed to the player, but I think it could have been done better. It's been a good while since I've actually watched/listened to MGS3's introduction in its entirety. I just want to get to the mission.

MGS4 is the worst when it comes to cutscenes though, by far.

MGS3's opening put me to sleep.

 

[makeshiftnh]

Of all the random crap in Metal Gear, people are complaining about a 5 minute recap of Cold War events for a game set in Cold War Russia. Really?

 

[deleted-1085394]

Of all the random crap in Metal Gear, people are complaining about a 5 minute recap of Cold War events for a game set in Cold War Russia. Really?

It wasn't the cutscene or it's content. It was the presentation.

 

[Stuit]

Of all the random crap in Metal Gear, people are complaining about a 5 minute recap of Cold War events for a game set in Cold War Russia. Really?

Not that part, the part where you spend forever staring at the codec screen after you've landed.
MGS1 is the one game in the series that got the opening truly right. Just a quick introduction, then it's all yours.

 

[deleted-1085394]

Of all the random crap in Metal Gear, people are complaining about a 5 minute recap of Cold War events for a game set in Cold War Russia. Really?

Not that part, the part where you spend forever staring at the codec screen after you've landed.
MGS1 is the one game in the series that got the opening truly right. Just a quick introduction, then it's all yours.

Yeah, it got the atmosphere, mood, setting, etc right. The best part is that if you do want to get the detailed information, at length, you could watch the 20 minutes of briefing videos, which were still more interesting than the MGS3 opening.

 

[Angler]

Of all the random crap in Metal Gear, people are complaining about a 5 minute recap of Cold War events for a game set in Cold War Russia. Really?

Not that part, the part where you spend forever staring at the codec screen after you've landed.
MGS1 is the one game in the series that got the opening truly right. Just a quick introduction, then it's all yours.

Yeah, it got the atmosphere, mood, setting, etc right. The best part is that if you do want to get the detailed information, at length, you could watch the 20 minutes of briefing videos, which were still more interesting than the MGS3 opening.

I love the MGS3 opening. I loved every second of it. But don't get me wrong I still think MGS1 had a better opening.

 

[Batzi]

Not that part, the part where you spend forever staring at the codec screen after you've landed.
MGS1 is the one game in the series that got the opening truly right. Just a quick introduction, then it's all yours.

Yeah, it got the atmosphere, mood, setting, etc right. The best part is that if you do want to get the detailed information, at length, you could watch the 20 minutes of briefing videos, which were still more interesting than the MGS3 opening.

I love the MGS3 opening. I loved every second of it. But don't get me wrong I still think MGS1 had a better opening.

MGS1 had the best codec sequences, amazing music and awesome characters overall. "The best is yet to come" was truly moving and emotional and nothing in the series came close to it. When Kojima brought it back in Act 4 I almost dropped down and started crying from the awesomeness and the memories it brought back!

 

[Ayershole]

MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

Boss Fights:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

 

[makeshiftnh]

MGS3 takes the crown for the most ridiculous opening.

Boss Fights:
MGS3
MGS4
MGS1
MGS2

They're incredibly easy and predictable with small maps and dated controls. The bosses themselves are lightyears better in MGS1, but they're way too easy.

EDIT: Also, REX vs. RAY and the last fight with Ocelot.

 

[PoorMr.Blue]

I thought that the MGS3 opening sequence post Halo-jump was consistent with the kind of quiet, lonely mood of much of the game. Not extremely tight, but rather, atmospheric.

Edit: But I could understand a complaint about the lengthy coded bit, I suppose...

I guess this was a useless post, but I'll leave my opinion up there.

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

Wow, MGS2 getting absolutely no credit as per usual.

You guys are telling me you didn't like the bungee jump off the bridge, or the hostile takeover? The first 25% of the game, the whole Tanker chapter, was the probably the best opening out of the entire series. MGS3 or PW had the worst introductions because of horrid pacing. At least MGS4 for all it's flaws nailed it with the "War has changed" speech with the Arabian music. MGS1's was good.

 

[drawingguts]

Wow, MGS2 getting absolutely no credit as per usual.

You guys are telling me you didn't like the bungee jump off the bridge, or the hostile takeover? The first 25% of the game, the whole Tanker chapter, was the probably the best opening out of the entire series. MGS3 or PW had the worst introductions because of horrid pacing. At least MGS4 for all it's flaws nailed it with the "War has changed" speech with the Arabian music. MGS1's was good.

hey i wrote some mgs2 love on here

 

[drawingguts]

but i love all the mgs's.... i have to chose one though. but they are all so good. some people's lives are shaped by star wars or star trek or whatever the #$&% but mine is "METAL GEAR"

 

[REALLY_BIG_MAN]

Wow, MGS2 getting absolutely no credit as per usual.

You guys are telling me you didn't like the bungee jump off the bridge, or the hostile takeover? The first 25% of the game, the whole Tanker chapter, was the probably the best opening out of the entire series. MGS3 or PW had the worst introductions because of horrid pacing. At least MGS4 for all it's flaws nailed it with the "War has changed" speech with the Arabian music. MGS1's was good.

hey i wrote some mgs2 love on here

I see it now, I couldn't find it because it was buried in the thread near the middle, easy to miss.

 

[makeshiftnh]

Wow, MGS2 getting absolutely no credit as per usual.

You guys are telling me you didn't like the bungee jump off the bridge, or the hostile takeover? The first 25% of the game, the whole Tanker chapter, was the probably the best opening out of the entire series. MGS3 or PW had the worst introductions because of horrid pacing. At least MGS4 for all it's flaws nailed it with the "War has changed" speech with the Arabian music. MGS1's was good.

I agree that MGS2 had the best opening and the MGS3 opening had pacing issues, but it's by no means a ridiculous intro as others have said.

 

[Batzi]

Every Metal Gear game in the canonical stealth series is PERFECT end of story. Kojima is God. Lock topic.

 

[gamemiester]

The reason MGS3 didn't sell aswell as the others is because in US it came out around the same time as GTA San Andreas and Halo 2 and lost out on competition and being overshadowed.

When MGS3 came out in March 2005 in Europe it happened again because it was only a week after Gran Turismo 4 came out. Same with Japan MGS3 and GT4 came out 2 days apart.

 

[Angler]

I never said that I don't like MGS2. It's perfect as Batzi said. Why are we fighting over which game is good...? Can you guys realize that MGS doesn't have time for 'fav and better' fights. Kojima is the best damn game seller I know, and this board deserves less fighting over this silly topic. Let's get back to honoring every game instead of fighting like this. C'mon now, you guys are better than this.

 

[deleted-1085394]

I never said that I don't like MGS2. It's perfect as Batzi said. Why are we fighting over which game is good...? Can you guys realize that MGS doesn't have time for 'fav and better' fights. Kojima is the best damn game seller I know, and this board deserves less fighting over this silly topic. Let's get back to honoring every game instead of fighting like this. C'mon now, you guys are better than this.

Exactly what I said in another thread, FF and Zelda are the ones with the fractured communities.

 

[TheMadTitan]

25 Ray fight da bess.

Taking on all 25 of those bitches and beating them without taking damage shall be my greatest gaming achievement.