I enjoy releasing a fart more than drafting LaMelo ball

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What a fucking joke. I am so sick of the hornets. So sick of Jordan. So sick of being the literal opposite of everything we were in the 90s and early 2000s ever since we were given the bobcats. This is the most embarrassing franchise in the league and it’s not close. LaMelo is gonna be an absolute shit player. I hate everything about this shit franchise. Complete incompetence.
 
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Lightsout32 said:
Do think he'll better or worse than Adam Morrison?
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Worse. And that’s the sad thing. We’ve drafted like 4 quality players since 2004. Okafor, Felton, Henderson, and Walker. What a fucking joke. I am so sick of the hornets. And none of them are all time greats. Mostly solid starters, but not all stars. Walker is the best, but doesn’t mean much when you fail to add anything with him in 10 years. Terrible track record for almost 2 decades of drafting. But we draft in the top Of the draft all the time too, lmao. It’s so bad. Really bad. Our ownership is without question the biggest problem. But he’s Jordan and he’s black so he will never be forced out, but he should be.


the equally incompetent Robert Johnson, the Bobcats first owner, is even worse. He literally named the team after himself. No one wanted “bob”cats. Fuck this team
 
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all I want is for Lavar to talk more trash about MJ
 
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Well ripping a fresh one and wafting it in as it floats along a gentle breeze is one of my favorite pastimes so I'd have to imagine drafting LaMelo is quite the pleasurable experience.
 
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He was the BPA and he will finally bring some excitement because idk how anyone can sit down and watch Hornets basketball
 
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First off, that doesn't say much; I personally enjoy releasing a fart more than lots of things.

I'm was never nearly as high on Melo as all the mocks were, but I have no problem with him going #3 to a team that's years away from making any type of run, especially with Wiseman and Edwards off the board. Why bother playing it safe? Charlotte's not a contender in need of someone who can contribute right away, and their future franchise player isn't gonna be acquired through free agency. Taking huge gambles on potential in the draft is really the best way forward for this squad.
 
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Well now you have Gordon "Yung Chandelier" Hayward locked up for 4/$120 too


C.Zeller
P.Washington
G.Hayward
D.Graham
L.Ball
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T.Rozier
M.Bridges
M.Monk
W.Hernangomez
C.Martin

idk man, Hayward fits anywhere but that contract is crazy, and that's not even thinking about injuries
 
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AirNik said:
Uh... doesn’t LaMelo force him off the floor?
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no? lol Graham thrived in 2 PG lineups last year, he and Rozier were both more efficient when playing with each other. Devonte' also shot over 42% on catch and shoot 3s. Having Ball and Hayward will just bring out the best in Graham.
 
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no? lol Graham thrived in 2 PG lineups last year, he and Rozier were both more efficient when playing with each other. Devonte' also shot over 42% on catch and shoot 3s. Having Ball and Hayward will just bring out the best in Graham.
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...but the Hornets were terrible. The issue I speak about it how do you play Ball+Graham if/when Graham is being deemphasized away from his strengths on offense AND a defensive liability. Rozier is just ass period.
 
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AirNik said:
...but the Hornets were terrible. The issue I speak about it how do you play Ball+Graham if/when Graham is being deemphasized away from his strengths on offense AND a defensive liability. Rozier is just ass period.
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The Hornets were projected to be the worst team in the league without Kemba but Graham elevated them to the 10th seed in the East. Is the 10th seed in the east good? No, but it's much better than anyone expected they would be and it's mostly because of Graham.

Just mountains of evidence of Graham playing great in multi ball handler offenses, in college and NBA. He will be fine.


Rozier is a fine off ball player, he's awful when he pretends to play PG. Whenever Graham sat the offense cratered because of Rozier running the show solo. But that's not the point here, it's doubtful Rozier begins the year in Charlotte. The fact that Rozier was a passable player when playing next to Graham is just another check mark for Graham.
 
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I don’t expect Ball to shoot well enough or be a good enough defender for this to be viable for... a while. I guess that’s my point.
 
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RyanRogers013 said:
Why won't Lonzo be able to defend 2s?
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Also, that wasn’t the question.
Graham is a definite scoring threat but a shit defender at the 1. Ball gives you the CHANCE to develop some kind of advantage by putting size on the PG position, but instead they’re forfeiting that in this setup. Graham should be a score-first/score-only 6th man and they need to get a proper wing.

One of Ball’s biggest assets is giving you the chance to run big, athletic lineups and they can’t do that right mow. Or at least won’t.

Rozier is actually a credible defender and that backcourt got obliterated on D.

Finally, I’ve never seen anyone say anything positive on Lamelo’s defense beyond him hawking for steals and blocks while displaying zero BBall in at that end, which is exactly what you’d expect.
 
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you lost me at score first, Devonte' is a great great passer and an excellent playmaker
 
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LaMelo Ball as off ball defensive specialist who hasn’t played in the US in years, shows no defensive aptitude so far, and has a strange potentially broken shot.

Sounds like the Hornets. It was a 3-Ish player draft, but he’s a bad roster fit right out of the gate. They’re not good enough to carry Graham and should have leveraged him and the pick for better assets.
 
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AirNik said:
Uh... doesn’t LaMelo force him off the floor?
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AirNik said:
...but the Hornets were terrible. The issue I speak about it how do you play Ball+Graham if/when Graham is being deemphasized away from his strengths on offense AND a defensive liability. Rozier is just ass period.
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AirNik said:
I don’t expect Ball to shoot well enough or be a good enough defender for this to be viable for... a while. I guess that’s my point.
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AirNik said:
Again... what is LaMelo doing then?
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AirNik said:
LaMelo Ball as off ball defensive specialist who hasn’t played in the US in years, shows no defensive aptitude so far, and has a strange potentially broken shot.

Sounds like the Hornets. It was a 3-Ish player draft, but he’s a bad roster fit right out of the gate. They’re not good enough to carry Graham and should have leveraged him and the pick for better assets.
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Every comment above is objectively correct. Hayward has been very good so they're merely sub-mediocre rather than completely garbage in the shit East.

> LaMelo can't shoot
> LaMelo and Graham don't fit together
> Graham is bad now
> LaMelo's size is an advantage but he's still bad on defense and as a shooter

As wrote, they should have traded Graham when they did this. He's been exposed now.
 
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Xtremegamer31 said:
Worse. And that’s the sad thing. We’ve drafted like 4 quality players since 2004. Okafor, Felton, Henderson, and Walker. What a fucking joke. I am so sick of the hornets. And none of them are all time greats. Mostly solid starters, but not all stars. Walker is the best, but doesn’t mean much when you fail to add anything with him in 10 years. Terrible track record for almost 2 decades of drafting. But we draft in the top Of the draft all the time too, lmao. It’s so bad. Really bad. Our ownership is without question the biggest problem. But he’s Jordan and he’s black so he will never be forced out, but he should be.


the equally incompetent Robert Johnson, the Bobcats first owner, is even worse. He literally named the team after himself. No one wanted “bob”cats. Fuck this team
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He's already better than Morrison thru 20 games lol not to mention he's 19 vs Morrison being 22 in his rookie year.
 
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"Devonte Graham is bad now"

No, he just started the season cold shooting and has been very good lately. Even with the cold start he's leading Hornets in advanced stats.




Last 9 games, he's been his regular self shooting. And he's still his clutch ass self.

now let's check advanced stats.


NBA Real Plus-Minus - National Basketball Association - ESPN

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The Best NBA Players, According To RAPTOR | FiveThirtyEight

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NBA Shot Charts

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So he is, #22 in league in RPM, #38 in league in RAPTOR, #14 in league in RAPM

Do you have any other misinformation you would like to spread @AirNik ?
 
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Everybody on the Hornets simply plays better with Devonte on the floor, Lamelo included. They fit together just fine because the Hornets are a very pass happy, assist happy offense. This article from last week

LaMelo Ball is leading Hornets' passing charge - Sports Illustrated


Here are their current numbers


Hornets are #1 in the league in assist rate

In fact, their current assist rate of 71.8% would have lead the league the last 18 years, you have to go back to 2002-2003 to find a team with a higher assist rate. Funny enough Devonte and Ball both average the same amount of assists per game, seems like they can share the ball and backcourt just fine.
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In the last 20 years, only the 2016-2017 Warriors average more assisted points per 100 possesions


The hornets are #1 in the league in passes made per game
 
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Xtremegamer31 said:
LaMelo is gonna be an absolute shit player. I hate everything about this shit franchise. Complete incompetence.
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Wow what such a bad take.This has aged terribly. LaMelo is a ROTY candidate in fact he could easily be the face of the League in a few years.
 
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I'm not here to declare Melo the GOAT after splashing 7 3's in game #25, but he's up to .363 on 5 threes per game. James Harden's exactly .363 for his career. Ideally he'll be able to improve on that, but if he can at least keep it up the pick will be justified.

Face of the league tho? LOL, no. I'm still not sure he'll have a better career than Haliburton.
 
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Cool with me. I'm pretty sure I've got at least one post out there stating that Josh Jackson would be a better pro than Jayson Tatum - point being, this wouldn't come close to being my all time worst take.
 
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This thread title sure didn’t age very well.

Edwards
Wiseman (stop being injured dude)
Ball

All hit so far.
 
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