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Formula 1 - 2011 Spanish Grand Prix




Grand Prix---------Winning Driver-------Winning Constructor
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/200983541/p1/?18]Australian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/201397620/p1/?16]Malaysian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/201584480/p1/?10]Chinese Grand Prix[/link]- Lewis Hamilton - Mclaren-Mercedez
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/202174432/p1/?10]Turkish Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing

Driver Standings

1 S. Vettel 93.0
2 L. Hamilton 59.0
3 M. Webber 55.0
4 J. Button 46.0
5 F. Alonso 41.0
6 F. Massa 24.0
7 N. Heidfeld 21.0
8 V. Petrov 21.0
9 N. Rosberg 20.0
10 K. Kobayashi 8.0
11 M. Schumacher 6.0
12 S. Buemi 6.0
13 A. Sutil 2.0
14 P. di Resta 2.0
15 R. Barrichello 0.0
16 N. Karthikeyan 0.0
17 J. Trulli 0.0
18 R. Kubica 0.0
19 J. d'Ambrosio 0.0
20 S. Perez 0.0
21 P. Maldonado 0.0
22 J. Alguersuari 0.0
23 H. Kovalainen 0.0
24 T. Glock 0.0
25 V. Liuzzi 0.0

Constructors

1Red Bull 148.0
2McLaren 105.0
3Ferrari 65.0
4Renault 42.0
5Mercedes GP 26.0
6Sauber 8.0
7Toro Rosso 6.0
8Force India 4.0
9Williams 0.0
10Team Lotus 0.0
11Hispania Racing 0.0
12Virgin Racing 0.0





The Spanish Grand Prix is going to be the one that really tests out the theory that F1's new set of rules can create interesting races - wherever.

Traditionally it's the Siesta GP. Watch the opening lap, then open a bottle of Rioja, go out for tapas, see a few friends, come back an hour and a half later and it's still the same order that it was on Lap 1.


There are the occasional highlights that centre around people making a mistake into the first corner, or Michael's car catching on fire, but rarely do they involve the 'O' word. Overtaking.

Last race the combination of tyre wear, DRS and KERS contrived to produce some epic battles. But making the Turkish GP interesting is like trying to make Penelope Cruz look sexy. You don't have to try too hard. Think of the Circuit de Catalunya as Norah Batty (and so many people do) and it's a whole lot harder.

Home boy Fernando Alonso picked exactly the right time to come into some form for Ferrari to guarantee the now-familiar bumper home audience. And what a difference to the last race that will be. And, of course, an irony too, given that Turkey is so spectacular and attracts no-one.

Fernando also hit form at exactly the right time to save Stefano Domenicali's job. Luca Montezemolo doesn't suffer a lack of success for very long - especially when it happened at the beginning of the previous season, and the season before that.

One of the developments of the opening few races has been that wherever the FIA say they are going to position the start of the Drag Reduction System before the GP weekend, they will change some time between Thursday and Saturday morning. Let's just predict it will be on the start/finish straight - the longer, the better.

More significant is the FIA's change of stance on throttle mapping.

The sport's governing body have decided that cars can no longer use exhaust gases to give them downforce through their blown diffusers in corners when the throttles aren't being used to power the car. Those crafty schmuck teams have been wasting energy by using the exhaust simply to give the blown diffuser something to do. This complex throttle mapping was going to be banned in Spain, but has had a last minute reprieve while the FIA work out all the loopholes.

McLaren have already come out and said that it will affect them but they're probably secretly hoping it will affect Red Bull even more. The Woking boys are bringing up to 12 different upgrades to Spain, some of which made them particularly fast in Friday practice in Istanbul, but weren't tested and approved for a race distance. Changing tyres without hiccups will help.

Having seen Mercedes outqualify them, and Ferrari our-race them in Turkey they'll want to be a lot closer to the Red Bulls this time round. How close anyone can get to Red Bull remains to be seen, Barcelona is a circuit that should suit the aerodynamically superior RB package and only some rain in Spain is likely to stop them notching up another win.

Pirelli have said they are going to bring more durable hard tyres for Spain, though to everyone's relief, their idea of a durable tyre is one that lasts 20 laps instead of 15, unlike Bridgestone's definition which was a tyre that would last a couple of seasons...minimum... and that was the Option.

What the Italian rubber maestros are trying to do is put a bigger gap in between the hard and the soft tyre, so that teams will mix up the strategies instead of everyone adopting what looks like the clear winner. The pitlane entry is more convoluted in Barcelona, so four stops may be unlikely, but three are definitely on the cards.

All eyes will be on two Germans at the weekend - Michael Schumacher, to see if the slump he experienced in Turkey continues and Adrian Sutil to see if he punches someone. Reports of a fracas in a nightclub are reminiscent of the old Kimi Raikkonen days when F1 drivers actually misbehaved.

Michael Schumacher saves his misbehaviour for untimely shoves at other cars, judging by what he tried to do toVitaly Petrov in Turkey. After qualifying over a second slower than his team-mate and been forcibly reminded to use his 'magic paddle' there are some suggesting that on Sunday afternoons he should be having a post-lunch nap rather than driving high-powered machinery.

We're certain that 'Big Joy' will return.
Wherever she's been, she'll be back comforting Michael in the motor home, giving him a post-race rub-down with a rolled up copy of Der Spiegel. Just the way he likes it.

So far this year we've had the big joy of three out of four interesting races. Barcelona, unlike its football team, has the reputation of being boring. If the new rules package can produce an interesting race at the Circuit de Catalunya, then we're going to be guaranteed big joy all season long. What was Bernie saying about artificial sprinklers...?





 

ign-rocks

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Rules

Object

The basic concept is that every race
weekend you will try and choose the Top 10 the best you can. If you
guess the winner right, you get 25 points, 2nd right you get 18, etc.


Points

1st Place: 25 points
2nd Place: 18 points
3rd place: 15 points
4th place: 12 points
5th place: 10 points
6th place: 8 points
7th place: 6 points
8th place: 4 points
9th place: 2 points
10th place: 1 point

Who wins pole: 5 points
Fastest lap: 5 points
Most constructor points: 10 points
First driver to retire: 5 points
Number of drivers who retire: 5 points




I (or someone else) will tally all scores after the race's completion
and post them in the thread I make for that day and the thread for the
next Grand Prix.

Notes

* Predictions must be in by the start of the qualifying sessions
* You may join in on any race and skip any race, but it leaves you at a disadvantage
* If you are going away for a while, you may give me several race predictions at once.
* You are free to edit predictions up until race qualifying starts
* If you post/edit after qualifying starts, your prediction will not count
* You can only post a driver once in your predictions
* Any questions may be asked in this thread, any other race threads, or via PM.





GTporsche - 154
stebop - 145
Delfino88 - 126
ign-rocks - 111
requiem46 - 101

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GTporsche

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Sep 2, 2006
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Here's stebop's predictions. He posted them in the Turkish GP thread.

stebop said:
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pole: vettel

constructors: mclaren

1st to retire: time glock

numbers of retirees: 6

1: vettel
2: webber
3: alonso
4: hamilton
5: button
6: rosberg
7 massa
8: msc
9 heidfeld
10: petrov

spanish gp
 

ign-rocks

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Pole - Vettel

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Hamilton
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Petrov
7. Alonso
8. Schumacher
9. Massa
10. Kobayashi

Lap - Webber
Constructor - RB
Number to retire - 5
First - Heikki
 

GTporsche

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1: Vettel
2: Webber
3: Hamilton
4: Button
5: Rosberg
6: Alonso
7: Massa
8: Schumacher
9: Petrov
10: Heidfeld

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Vettel
Retire: Liuzzi
# Retire: 5
 

Delfino88

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Apr 15, 2005
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1: Vettel
2: Webber
3: Hamilton
4: Button
5: Rosberg
6: Alonso
7: Massa
8: Schumacher
9: Heidfeld
10: Petrov

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Webber
1st Retire: Ambrosio
Retirements: 3
 

stebop

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Oct 27, 2000
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pole: vettel

fastest lap: hamilton

constructors: mclaren

1st to retire: time glock

numbers of retirees: 6

1: vettel
2: webber
3: alonso
4: hamilton
5: button
6: rosberg
7 massa
8: msc
9 heidfeld
10: petrov
 

requiem46

Because we can
May 19, 2005
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125
1: Vettel
2: Webber
3: Hamilton
4: Alonso
5: Button
6: Rosberg
7: Schumacher
8: Petrov
9: Kobayashi
10: Heidfeld

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Webber
Retire: Trulli
# Retire: 3
 

Delfino88

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Apr 15, 2005
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.. had picked Webber for pole and the race win, but after seeing Vettel on his only lap in P3 set the fastest time i changed my mind .. ho hum // this should be an interestting race, will be tight for the podium

 

ign-rocks

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Fantastic drives from Vettel and Hamilton, they're so fast compared to the rest. Even with Alonso leading the race from the start they still managed to lap him as the race unfolded. Probably the best Spanish Grand prix there has been.
 

requiem46

Because we can
May 19, 2005
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well, those two lapping alonso didn't really surprise me considering that when Alonso was leading, the 3 behind him were in a 2 second gap that kind of said "we'd love to get past you because we are faster, but montmelo is still an awesomely entertaining circuit for that". it still was an improvement compared to the spanish gp other years though

lame results of the predictions, by the way. Excluding vettel winning, the only one who got someone else in the points is ign with kobayashi on tenth :^O

Delfino88 - 40
GTporsche - 40
requiem46 - 40
ign-rocks - 36
stebop - 30

season

GTporsche - 194
stebop - 175
Delfino88 - 166
ign-rocks - 147
requiem46 - 141
 

GTporsche

Another State of Mind
Sep 2, 2006
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Only saw last five laps of the race when I woke up and even then it was putting me back to sleep. :^O

That's all the F1 I saw this weekend.

My lead is increasing. [face_dancing]