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Formula 1 - 2011 Monaco Grand Prix




Grand Prix---------Winning Driver-------Winning Constructor
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/200983541/p1/?18]Australian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/201397620/p1/?16]Malaysian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/201584480/p1/?10]Chinese Grand Prix[/link]- Lewis Hamilton - Mclaren-Mercedez
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/202174432/p1/?10]Turkish Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/202527780/p1/?11]Spanish Grand Prix[/link] - - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing

Driver Standings

1 S. Vettel 118.0
2 L. Hamilton 77.0
3 M. Webber 67.0
4 J. Button 61.0
5 F. Alonso 51.0
6 N. Rosberg 26.0
7 N. Heidfeld 25.0
8 F. Massa 24.0
9 V. Petrov 21.0
10 M. Schumacher 14.0
11 K. Kobayashi 9.0
12 S. Buemi 6.0
13 A. Sutil 2.0
14 P. di Resta 2.0
15 S. Perez 2.0
16 R. Barrichello 0.0
17 N. Karthikeyan 0.0
18 J. Trulli 0.0
19 R. Kubica 0.0
20 J. d'Ambrosio 0.0
21 P. Maldonado 0.0
22 J. Alguersuari 0.0
23 H. Kovalainen 0.0
24 T. Glock 0.0
25 V. Liuzzi 0.0

Constructors

1Red Bull 185.0
2McLaren 138.0
3Ferrari 75.0
4Renault 46.0
5Mercedes GP 40.0
6Sauber 11.0
7Toro Rosso 6.0
8Force India 4.0
9Williams 0.0
10Team Lotus 0.0
11Hispania Racing 0.0
12Virgin Racing 0.0





The Monaco Grand Prix can be one of the greatest races on the calendar when F1 cars have variable traction. It's difficult enough when it's constant.

The place has got everything going for it. A superb location with a dazzling amphitheater harbor; an unforgiving circuit that punishes the mildest of indiscretions; a sense of history - look at a car at any point on the circuit and you know where it is (there's none of the "Is that Turn 4 or Turn 13...?") And its corners have names.


And then there's all the money. The Monaco GP oozes money - tax-dodging money, money from the swanky hotels and hospitality packages, money paying for the multi-million pound yachts of the sheiks and the oligarchs. F1 entertains its sponsors big style in Monaco so it's important not to put in too shabby a performance for the people who are bankrolling the operation.

The cruel irony of Monaco for the teams is that the one place they really do need the palatial motorhomes, they can't fit them in. Still, it's better than the old days when everything was stuffed into a pitlane garage the size of a Portakabin and the rest was in a multi-story car park.

The person most under most pressure to put in a good performance in Monaco is Mark Webber. Last year's winner could really do with a win right now to get his season started. Or at least for Vettel to do something stupid, like Spa 2010. That doesn't look very likely.

He'll be hard pressed at a track that doesn't favour aero efficiency but does reward cars with bagfuls of traction, which the McLaren seems to have lots of right now (although not off the line, eh, lads). Both Button and Hamilton have won in Monaco and like racing there, even if Hamilton did have an unfortunate qualifying accident going into Massenet one year. And in 2010 Jenson's engineers left a baffle in his radiator.

Ferrari won't be in the best mental state as they rock up to Monte Carlo having just sacked their technical director Also Costa. In Spain Alonso either hit problems or was running his engine on too much fuel for too long. Istanbul seems to have been a false dawn with the leading Ferrari finishing over a lap down on the winner, on pure pace.

Last year in Monaco Michael Schumacher proved what you can do with a variable bit of traction by sprinting past Alonso up the hill to Anthony Nogues. We could get a lot more of that this year with the varying tyre wear and different strategies.

Schumi himself needs to brush off the background chatter of is he/isn't he going to retire. He doesn't look happy. Only Rosberg's ailing car prevented him from finishing behind his team-mate again in Spain. Michael's not a quitter, though, and wouldn't want to be thought as one. My Guess is he'll grit his teeth and carry on, but it's not going to be easy.

One of the most interesting aspects of the Monaco race will be the role that backmarkers have to play in proceedings. Pirelli are bringing the soft and supersoft tyres and they are likely to degrade quicker than a Premiership footballer's reputation on Twitter.

This is going to create a hell of a lot of marbles and with the track being the narrowest in F1, with only one slender racing line, it's not going to be much fun going off line to overtake an HRT or a Virgin. There could be some serious problems late on in the race when the carpet of rubber has been put down waiting to trap the unwary driver.

Will backmarkers be instructed to go off line to let faster drivers through?

We already know that there's going to be no DRS in the Monaco tunnel, but the rest of qualifying, particularly Q1, will be high anxiety. Obviously it depends on the difference in times between the two tyres after practice, but Lotus - without the disadvantage of having high speed corners to contend with - could be right in amongst the midfield. They have Monaco expert Jarno Trulli and Kovalainen is no slouch round the streets either.

Lotus are likely to use their supersofts early on and it might well be that everyone is forced to go for the Option tyre in Q1 just to play it safe. The combination of traffic, potential red flags brought on by accidents and the humiliation of going out early in front of the sponsors may force teams to surrender that extra set.

The Safety Car is normally busiest in Monaco and Montreal, so the number crunchers will be crunching those numbers on a bewildering set of scenarios for what happens to the race strategy if we get an SC. Or should that be 'when we get the SC'. With such a high rate of attrition and the Armco claiming many cars it will Lotus's best chance of the year for grabbing a point. It could also be one of the most mind-blowingly complicated strategic races of all time.

Oh, and the BBC are good at digging up old embarrassing footage of footballers with dodgy perms, they ought to root around in the video archive and get the tape of David Coulthard moaning about being held up by Enrique Bernoldi. One year Quagmire got stuck behind an Arrows and he felt it was the Arrows' driver's duty to get out of his way because he didn't stand a chance of winning the race abnd DC did.




 

ign-rocks

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Rules

Object

The basic concept is that every race
weekend you will try and choose the Top 10 the best you can. If you
guess the winner right, you get 25 points, 2nd right you get 18, etc.


Points

1st Place: 25 points
2nd Place: 18 points
3rd place: 15 points
4th place: 12 points
5th place: 10 points
6th place: 8 points
7th place: 6 points
8th place: 4 points
9th place: 2 points
10th place: 1 point

Who wins pole: 5 points
Fastest lap: 5 points
Most constructor points: 10 points
First driver to retire: 5 points
Number of drivers who retire: 5 points




I (or someone else) will tally all scores after the race's completion
and post them in the thread I make for that day and the thread for the
next Grand Prix.

Notes

* Predictions must be in by the start of the qualifying sessions
* You may join in on any race and skip any race, but it leaves you at a disadvantage
* If you are going away for a while, you may give me several race predictions at once.
* You are free to edit predictions up until race qualifying starts
* If you post/edit after qualifying starts, your prediction will not count
* You can only post a driver once in your predictions
* Any questions may be asked in this thread, any other race threads, or via PM.





GTporsche - 194
stebop - 175
Delfino88 - 166
ign-rocks - 147
requiem46 - 141
 

GTporsche

Another State of Mind
Sep 2, 2006
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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Webber
4. Alonso
5. Button
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Massa
9. Petrov
10. Kobayashi

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Alonso
Retire: Karthikeyan
# Retire: 4
 

requiem46

Because we can
May 19, 2005
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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso
4. Rosberg
5. Webber
6. Button
7. Schumacher
8. Sutil
9. Heidfeld
10. Kobayashi

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Alonso
Retire: liuzzi
# Retire: 5
 

ign-rocks

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Jun 3, 2003
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Pole - Vettel

1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Alonso
6 . Rosberg
7. Massa
8. Schumacher
9. Kobyashi
10. Petrov

Cons - RB
Lap - Webber
Retire - Heikki
# Retire - 5
 

stebop

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Oct 27, 2000
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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. alo
4. webber
5. Button
6. Rosberg
7. massa
8. schu
9. heidfeld
10. perez

Pole: hamilton
Points: Red Bull
Lap: webber
Retire: kobayashi
# Retire: 6
 

Delfino88

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Apr 15, 2005
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1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso
5. Button
6. Massa
7. Schumacher
8. Petrov
9. Rosberg
10. Heidfeld

Pole: Vettel
Points: Red Bull
Lap: Vettel
Retire: DAmbrosio
Retirements: 5
 

ign-rocks

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What an eventful weekend that was, first the Perez qualifying accident, then the safety car and racing incidents in todays race. It wouldve been interesting if that safety never came out near the end of the race because that Vettel-Alonso-Button was fantastic.
 

requiem46

Because we can
May 19, 2005
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and I missed this one due to family meal, yay

race


stebop - 57
ign-rocks - 50
requiem46 - 45
Delfino88 - 45
GTporsche - 40

season


GTporsche - 234
stebop - 232
Delfino88 - 211
ign-rocks - 197
requiem46 - 186
 

GTporsche

Another State of Mind
Sep 2, 2006
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ign-rocks said:
What an eventful weekend that was, first the Perez qualifying accident, then the safety car and racing incidents in todays race. It wouldve been interesting if that safety never came out near the end of the race because that Vettel-Alonso-Button was fantastic.

I was very disappointed to see the SC come out at that point. Really wanted to see the conclusion of that battle but as soon as I saw them catching the Sutil train I knew it wouldn't turn out good for anyone.
 

Delfino88

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Apr 15, 2005
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What a pathetic pussy inept FIA .. we could have had one of the best finishes but the decision to allow the tyre change was a big joke. What the hell was the point of re-starting if everyone got a fresh set of tyres ? ? we were robbed ! FIA should hang their heads in shame.



 

GTporsche

Another State of Mind
Sep 2, 2006
51,990
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What's the point of the 20 second penalty given to Hamilton? He was last on the lead lap and that penalty doesn't affect his position in the race at all.

It should have been a grid penalty for Canada.. but I guess he would just do the same kamikaze overtaking he did on the streets of Monte Carlo.
 

requiem46

Because we can
May 19, 2005
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well, I suppose you usually get 20 second penalties for whatever he did. If that's the case, it'd be pretty retarded and unfair to change it to a grid penalty only because the other cars failed at staying on the same lap as him