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Formula 1 - 2011 Chinese Grand Prix




Grand Prix---------Winning Driver-------Winning Constructor
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/200983541/p1/?18]Australian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
[link=http://boards.ign.com/formula_one_racing/b5763/201397620/p1/?16]Malaysian Grand Prix[/link] - Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing


Driver Standings

1 S. Vettel 50.0
2 J. Button 26.0
3 M. Webber 22.0
4 L. Hamilton 22.0
5 F. Alonso 20.0
6 F. Massa 16.0
7 N. Heidfeld 15.0
8 V. Petrov 15.0
9 K. Kobayashi 6.0
10 S. Buemi 4.0
11 M. Schumacher 2.0
12 A. Sutil 2.0
13 P. di Resta 2.0
14 R. Barrichello 0.0
15 S. Perez 0.0
16 P. Maldonado 0.0
17 J. d'Ambrosio 0.0
18 J. Alguersuari 0.0
19 H. Kovalainen 0.0
20 R. Kubica 0.0
21 N. Karthikeyan 0.0
22 J. Trulli 0.0
23 N. Rosberg 0.0
24 T. Glock 0.0
25 V. Liuzzi 0.0

Constructors

1Red Bull 72.0
2McLaren 48.0
3Ferrari 36.0
4Renault 30.0
5Sauber 6.0
6Toro Rosso 4.0
7Force India 4.0
8Mercedes GP 2.0
9Williams 0.0
10Team Lotus 0.0
11Hispania Racing 0.0
12Virgin Racing 0.0





Before we've even caught our breath after Malaysia it's the Chinese GP in Shangai.

The Shang is another Hermann Tilke track possessing the longest back straight in F1 and on which the drivers will be allowed to use their DRS (Drag Reduction System) wing unlike the previous two races where it's been the main straight. Unlike Sepang, once you've been overtaken on the straight there's no way back past on the following corner in Shanghai unless you really mess up your braking. To make it more difficult, the FIA are only allowing activation halfway down - otherwise the lapping car would probably be past the start/finish line before the overtaken car got to the corner


Last year this was a rain interrupted race which saw Jenson Button make an inspired tyre choice to take the win. This year Mclaren stand a fair old chance from the word go. Hopefully Matt Bishop and the rest of the McLaren press crew have picked up all of Lewis's toys and placed them carefully back in the pram. After the race in Malaysia he looked like someone had stolen his felt tips and the colouring pad and taken his place in the soft play area . And I'm pretty sure this was before he found out that Fernando Alonso had reported his driving to the stewards.

There have been stories in the press this week that Alonso was summoned to see the stewards after the last race because of the collision where he knocked off his own front wing. During the meeting he supposedly alleged Hamilton was weaving on the lap before and the stewards were duty bound to investigate this.

We need this cleared up because I thought stewards would only look at something if there were an official protest from the team. Did Stefano Domenicali complain or was it Alonso? The Spaniard shouldn't be implicated if it's a team choice to make the protest.

Having said that it would be very surprising to find out that the team had complained about something so petty when Hamilton was already down in 7th place. If it was indeed Alonso who whined, then that only adds to the rumours about him asking the Mclaren team to underfuel Hamilton in 2007, threatening to expose the team about Stepneygate and knowing more about Nelson Piquet Junior's crash than he lets on.

In what could become a very boring season this is exactly what we need - a bit of personal animosity to spice things up. Very handily the same stewards will be on duty in Shanghai, so they will have to be totally consistent in their application of the rules.

What got a lot more of the drivers very hot under the triple layer Nomex last race was the appearance of marbles. But not just any marbles. Different marbles to the marbles they were expecting. Understandably Pirelli boss Paul Hembery was at a loss to know how to play this criticism. He'd been given a brief to have the tyres degrade quickly. The tyres degrade quite quickly by shedding marbles. Now the drivers were having a go at him for producing too many marbles (and different to Barcelona at that). Yes, he could produce a tyre that you would only need to be changed once in a race, but that wasn't what everyone decided F1 needed...

He should take no notice of them - the loudest ones are all paid more than he is and can learn to cope. Bernie probably looks at it like this: If they trip over them, run wide and then launch themselves across the infield like Vitaly Petrov, then at least that's more footage for the highlights tape. Yes, you don't want them in Monaco, but they were already an absolute nightmare in Montreal and led directly to one of Ralf Schumacher's final meetings with Armco.

If it's a case of marbles smacking into drivers' hands then the complainants should take a look at some of the footage of early F1 racers like Sir Sterl who got half a ton of soot poured over them during the course of the grand prix, sat in pools of fuel and were hurled out of their cockpits from time to time. They would certainly have swapped their high risk of death in every race for a smack on the padded glove by a bit of high speed rubber.

It could have been such a marble that got wedged into Michael Schumacher's DRS unit and ruined his qualifying. He'll be hoping for a smoother time of it this weekend.

In China we will get a further settling in of the new rules and an indication of which circuits are going to suit which cars.

McLaren might be in with a shout of pole given that they can make their Mercedes grunt pay on the long China back straight. In qualifying the DRS won't be limited to just half the straight, but all of it. It may well be that the higher configuration of downforce they have on the MP4-26 isn't quite so good during the race because they're not allowed to use their DRS unless overtaking. Ferrari, on the other hand, have an overall better car and peg them back in the race. It happened in Malaysia and it would have happened a lot sooner had Fernando not been stranded by a poor start in Australia.

Adrian Newey has admitted that there is no quick short-term fix to the Red Bull team's KERS problems and so the engineers could end up sending a lot more thinly coded messages via team radio during the race. 'Agent Vettel, our friend Comrade Boost will not be joining us in the West, revert to Plan B'.

Yes, even team radio is more interesting this year. Let's just hope the overpriced fruity drinks firm doesn't run away with it.

The Chinese GP looks like it could be entertaining even if stays dry. One man who is never short of entertainment is Kamui Kobayashi who must have overtaken Mark Webber about four times in Sepang and Michael Schumacher about five. For future races we really do need Kamui Cam. In the old days of Sky's digital coverage you could pick a driver to follow for the whole race. You could watch the race once and then you could re-watch it in real time from a driver's point-of-view. Which F1 fan would not want to see a race like the Malaysian GP from Kamui-Cam. Storming it was. Let's hope for more of the same on Sunday.





 

ign-rocks

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Rules

Object

The basic concept is that every race
weekend you will try and choose the Top 10 the best you can. If you
guess the winner right, you get 25 points, 2nd right you get 18, etc.


Points

1st Place: 25 points
2nd Place: 18 points
3rd place: 15 points
4th place: 12 points
5th place: 10 points
6th place: 8 points
7th place: 6 points
8th place: 4 points
9th place: 2 points
10th place: 1 point

Who wins pole: 5 points
Fastest lap: 5 points
Most constructor points: 10 points
First driver to retire: 5 points
Number of drivers who retire: 5 points




I (or someone else) will tally all scores after the race's completion
and post them in the thread I make for that day and the thread for the
next Grand Prix.

Notes

* Predictions must be in by the start of the qualifying sessions
* You may join in on any race and skip any race, but it leaves you at a disadvantage
* If you are going away for a while, you may give me several race predictions at once.
* You are free to edit predictions up until race qualifying starts
* If you post/edit after qualifying starts, your prediction will not count
* You can only post a driver once in your predictions
* Any questions may be asked in this thread, any other race threads, or via PM.



ign-rocks - 91
GTporsche - 86
stebop - 75
Delfino88 - 72
requiem46 - 69
 

GTporsche

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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Webber
4. Alonso
5. Button
6. Massa
7. Petrov
8. Heidfeld
9. Sutil
10. Rosberg

Pole: Vettel
Fastest Lap: Vetttel
Constuctor: Red Bull
Retire: Karthikeyan
# Retire: 6
 

requiem46

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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Rosberg
6. Heidfeld
7. Petrov
8. Alonso
9. Massa
10. Sutil

Pole: Vettel
Fastest Lap: Hamilton
Constuctor: Red Bull
Retire: Glock
# Retire: 5
 

ign-rocks

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1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Alonso
5. Petrov
6. Heidfield
7. Massa
8 . Rosberg
9. Kobayashi
10 . Webber

Pole - Vettel
Constuctor - Mclaren
Lap - Webber
Retire - Trulli
Number to retire - 4
 

stebop

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1st Place: Alo
2nd Place: vettel
3rd place: hamilton
4th place: button
5th place: weber
6th place: heidfeld
7th place: masa
8th place: rosberg
9th place: msc
10th place: petrov

Who wins pole: alo
Fastest lap: hamilton
Most constructor points: ferrari
First driver to retire: paul di rista
Number of drivers who retire: 6
 

Delfino88

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Apr 15, 2005
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1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg
7. Heidfeld
8. Petrov
9. Schumacher
10. Massa

Pole - Vettel
Constuctor - Red Bull
Lap - Vettel
Retire - Kovalainen
Number to retire - 6


 

ign-rocks

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what a fantastic race that was, superb drives from every driver, quite literally. 6 different lap leaders and great overtakes and battles from everyone.
 

requiem46

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Button pitting at vettel's place was pretty hilarious to see. Alonso crying at having a stupidly slow car too (considering massa had been keeping a pretty nice pace). And it's good someone wins who isn't vettel for a change this season

Also, [face_applause] at webber ending third

Race

stebop - 30
GTporsche - 28
ign-rocks - 20
requiem46 - 15
Delfino88 - 5

Season

GTporsche - 114
ign-rocks - 111
stebop - 105
requiem46 - 84
Delfino88 - 77
 

GTporsche

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Watched the race today. Amazing drive by Webber and yet still looked totally displeased by it. Hopefully more races finish with Vettel not on the top step of the podium.

My first lead in the points by sheer luck as I didn't watch any sessions this weekend due to the time difference.
 

Delfino88

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GTporsche said:
Watched the race today. Amazing drive by Webber and yet still looked totally displeased by it. Hopefully more races finish with Vettel not on the top step of the podium.

My first lead in the points by sheer luck as I didn't watch any sessions this weekend due to the time difference.

Agreed ! would like to see Vettel on the bottom step for the next four races, just to make the season more interesting.
Agreed ! you didn't view any sessions and yet gain 28 points while Del watched every session and only picked up 5 points .. one reason why ive suggested a second tipping comp

Webber is displeased because he's getting the raw end of the tooth brush from all Bull RedBull .. i guess thats what happens to a 'number 2' .. though it'd be better for the 'sport' if RedBull treated both drivers like Macca treats their drivers

Anyone notice how grubby Vettel looked in China ? (un-shaved, in need of a hair cut etc etc) he's the 'world champion' ... Fine image for F1 'the pinnacle of motorsport' (and for RedBull for that matter) .. you'd thnik he at least would have more pride in himself ? ?