dquigley

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Chicago's season being an abject failure doesn't mean Boston's was a success. What a crazy argument.
 

PatsFan07

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Chicago's season being an abject failure doesn't mean Boston's was a success. What a crazy argument.
The Bruins were able to get a couple of wins in the postseason though not to mention they missed the playoffs twice and they made it this year how is that a failure?
 

dquigley

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I only have one measurement for success. 29 teams will fail every year. There are no moral victories. You can be happy with any progress Boston made this year, but calling it a "success" is silly to me.

Not sure why you posted this thread if your mind was made up already.
 

tmg.exe

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A case could be made that a young and rebuilding team that has had a decade+ of futility finally breaking through and showing unexpectedly well for a playoff round or two is some partial degree of success. Toronto exceeded expectations. Even if Edmonton bows out in the second round, this season is a marked positive sign towards them moving in the right direction.

Boston hasn't rebuilt. Most of their key players are 30+, their captain is 40. That future gets darker before it gets brighter. Scraping out two wins against a not-great Ottawa side is no success.

A season in which you're so bad your team stopped responding to one of the most revered coaches in the league and upon firing him your age-old rivals hire him and proceed to win the division... meanwhile your team barely scrapes into the playoffs but makes a hasty exit without even winning a single home game... it is undeniably a failure.
 

PatsFan07

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A case could be made that a young and rebuilding team that has had a decade+ of futility finally breaking through and showing unexpectedly well for a playoff round or two is some partial degree of success. Toronto exceeded expectations. Even if Edmonton bows out in the second round, this season is a marked positive sign towards them moving in the right direction.

Boston hasn't rebuilt. Most of their key players are 30+, their captain is 40. That future gets darker before it gets brighter. Scraping out two wins against a not-great Ottawa side is no success.

A season in which you're so bad your team stopped responding to one of the most revered coaches in the league and upon firing him your age-old rivals hire him and proceed to win the division... meanwhile your team barely scrapes into the playoffs but makes a hasty exit without even winning a single home game... it is undeniably a failure.

Mccavoy? Pasternak? Kuraly?
 

tmg.exe

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Every team has young guys coming through. Pastrnak is clearly amazing. McAvoy is amazing too but it's no 'success' that he was rushed to the NHL this year because of injuries - he still would have been amazing had he made his debut next fall as he would have had their hand not been forced. Kuraly had one really good game but I don't think anyone but the most die-hard homer is now equating him to the next coming of Crosby. He seems to be a useful depth player, just like every team develops once or twice a year. Carlo is a much more impressive development than Kuraly.

Given Boston's roster-gutting moves like sending Hamilton and Lucic out for draft picks, one would hope their pipeline of young players isn't dry. That they have youth coming through is not success so much as holding-serve given what they paid to get a prospect pipeline.
 
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