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Blogger Mike Taylor said...

If you wanted to, you could sum up the entire message of the book in five words. "May the force be with you".

Pedantry alert: that's six words.

Thursday, 27 June, 2024

Blogger Mike Taylor said...

Evangelicals and Charismatics are inclined to reduce Christianity to a feeling -- an intense, personal moment of being "saved"; an ecstatic, shamanistic hysteria which sometimes breaks out at religious performances.

Oh, hey, come on. That's a bit caricaturey isn't it?

They talk about chains falling off and dungeons flaming with light after the event because that's the kind of language they've been taught to use. The New Testament has a good deal to say about upper rooms and roads to Damascus, but you'd have to search quite hard for the primacy of the conversion experience.

Here I mostly agree. My own experience of becoming a Christian was certainly slow and arguable even boring, having much more to do with persuasion than revelation, and I agree that a lot of what we read in the New Testament seems comfortable with that. (Even the Road to Emmaus, which ends in a moment of sudden revelation, consisted mostly of Jesus explaining things to his walking companions.)

And yet and yet. Much as I am more comfortable with that idea, we can't ignore (for example) Ephesians 2:4-5, where Paul writes in very black-and-white terms: "because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions". That doesn't sound like a comfortably English slow persuasion.

If you start out with the idea that the world is a huge battle between God and Screwtape it's not so hard to attribute spiritual significance to every day vicissitudes. "Satan hid my keys. I thought this was because he wanted to make me late for work. But in fact, he was trying to provoke me to use vulgar language.

Interesting, now I come to think of it, I'm not sure that Screwtape or Wormwood at any point actually manipulates the patient's circumstance (by hiding his keys, for example). Their manipulation is limited to the way the patient responds to circumstances.

Thursday, 27 June, 2024

Blogger Andrew Rilstone said...

#not-all-evangelicals-and-charismatics

Thursday, 27 June, 2024

Blogger Andrew Rilstone said...

The ; needs to be an "and/or". For some evangelicals, it's all about "that particular moment when you first gave your life to Jesus"; if you can't say exactly when that was, you are not properly born again. For some charismatics, it's all to do with what they call the Holy Spirit, which manifests as speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit, and other dramatic manifestations. (There are technical distinctions: I think a Pentecostalist says you haven't been Baptised In The Spirit until you've spoken in tongues and a Charismatic says it is optional?) But its definitely about conversion and the direct experience of God: you are are totally not a Christian by virtue of membership of the Body of Chris and participation in the blessed Sacrament.

The New Age movement if probably not as uniformly kooky as I portray it, either.

Thursday, 27 June, 2024

Blogger Gavin Burrows said...

"The New Age movement is probably not as uniformly kooky as I portray it, either."

The New Age movement is as uniformly kooky as you portray it.

Thursday, 27 June, 2024