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Blogger Gavin Burrows said...

“But what we now call psychedelia was simply part of the mainstream culture. Everyone was a little childish. Pastel shades and bright colours and giant symbols of flowers and anthropomorphised animals have always been part of the stock in trade of children's illustrations.”

I’m not sure whether you mean this was inherently true, or had become so by the Seventies. If the first, I fear it risks getting the thing upside-down. Hippie culture was largely a refusal to “grow up” as a kind of conscientious objection against the adult world, and so a revelling in the iconography of childhood. John Lennon famously sang “when I was a kid, everything was right”. Despite that being very much not the case for him.

And in retrospect we underestimate how soon you were expected to grow up in those days, to be married off by twenty-one and giving up on that silly pop music.

But of course by the Seventies it definitely was. It had largely been a celebration of all the things you’d consumed when a child, so wasn’t so hard to transfer it into things to consume as a young adult.

Monday, 18 April, 2022

Blogger SK said...

If you don't already know and love the show, for god's sake don't go away and watch it on my say-so.

I read one of the books from the class library (a couple of shelves at the back of the classroom with a, clearly, pretty eclectic selection) in between devouring Target novelisations and James Bonds that I must have understood less than half of (I remember finding The Spy Who Loved Me particularly boring, so I agreed with the author on that at least). I remember very little about it other than that I was not impressed. I actively avoided reading any others.

Then there was a remake with a kid who’d been in Neighbours. It, also, was not very good �� not a patch on Century Falls — but in those days you watched what was on or you watched nothing. Though looking it up I discover the girl in it was later nominated for an Oscar, and even later become Moneypenny. Coincidences can be weird sometimes.

Eventually, in the days of satellite/cable television, I caught a repeat on an episode: the one where Hitler turns out to be a space alien and also a headmaster, I believe. It was worse than I had ever dared imagine.


The Tomorrow People are not MUTANTS: they are simply the next inevitable, stage of evolution.

It wasn’t just Terry Nation had no clue about how evolution works, then? Perhaps it was a generation had their schooling disru7by the war and never learnt science, and came away with this bizarre misunderstanding.

Telepathy, Teleportation and Telekinesis would have been fun powers to have

I refer again to my comments on Ace of Wands: http://www.andrewrilstone.com/2021/12/something-to-do-with-space_23.html?showComment=1640565079804#c4194516017366786735 ; telepathy seems to have been a very present idea in the culture (at least as it pertains to stuff aimed at children) in the seventies.

Monday, 18 April, 2022

Blogger postodave said...

In honour of this review I have just re-watched the first TP serial. I quite enjoyed it. I now remember watching it again with my daughter in the nineties, so I know it could appeal to the Harry Potter generation. What hit me this time was how much its approach was learned from Doctor Who.

The ITV children's Sci Fi serial from a couple of years earlier, Timeslip, was earnest, at times eerie, and full of explanations. This copies Doctor Who in delaying explanation and keeping the action moving. It can be clunky at times, one of the worst clunks is when the two bikers Ginge and Lefty who have been recruited by the villain decide while imprisoned with Kenny that they will switch sides. 'They're on our side now,' says Kenny, and no one questions it.

The real problem is that no one seems to know what the Tomorrow People are. Making them different serves the same function as having children's stories about animals, they can have greater freedom than children usually do without quite being adults. But the ways in which they are different is never explored. We know there is a barrier in their minds that stops them killing but we don't know why. We know they are different but hardly know how. When Stephen looses his newly developed powers the others decide it is worth risking killing him to get the powers back so he can be a 'fully functioning Tomorrow person'. It seems that what breaking out does psychologically is to make people act exactly like the heroes and heroines in children's adventure stories, begging not to be left behind on dangerous missions, eager to self sacrifice. This is very handy.

And yes, the whole thing is based on a misunderstanding of evolution. The bottom line is that huge macroevolutionary leaps would be mutations but would be unlikely to be beneficial. If you want to know how people came to be so misinformed about evolution then you are on the right lines. I was at secondary school in the seventies and I did not get as far as CSE or O level biology. I know that what I was taught prior to that stage by a teacher who would himself have had no formal education in biology, was wrong. And it was wrong in ways similar to the understanding in the TP. The timescale on which evolution happens was massively foreshortened.

Saturday, 23 April, 2022

Blogger SK said...

The bottom line is that huge macroevolutionary leaps would be mutations but would be unlikely to be beneficial. […] And it was wrong in ways similar to the understanding in the TP. The timescale on which evolution happens was massively foreshortened.

That’s not the specific way in which Terry Nation (and, it seems, the writers of The Tomorrow People misunderstand evolution, though. The specific way evolution works in Terry Nation stories is that rather than mutations (of whatever magnitude) occurring randomly, and then either spreading or disappearing depending on whether they convey a survival advantage in the particular environment in which the organism lives (so, for example, the same mutation might spread throughout a population in a desert but be selected against in a population that live in a swamp, and that’s how species diverge), the mutations that a geneotype will undergo and, more importantly, the order in which those mutations will take place, is already present in the genotype at its very beginning.

So for example, imagine a species moving from the sea to the land. In real-evolution, a random mutation might give an organism the ability to breath air through its gills, as well as water (simplifying massively). If the organism happens to live in the deep ocean with no land around, this will probably convey no survival advantage and so won’t be passed to the next generation. But if the organism happens to live by an island, maybe it will haul itself out of the water at night and so escape being eaten by its aquatic predators, and so more of the organisms with the mutation will survive than those without, and they will breed, and so subsequent generations have the air-breathing gene.

But it Terry Nation Evolution it doesn’t work this way. In Terry Nation Evolution, the genes for air-breathing already exist in the genotype and, upon some stimulus, they are ‘activated’ and the organism becomes air-breathing, and passes this on to future generations — whether or not this would convey any survival advantage in its environment. It happens not through a process of selection, but simply because this is ‘the next stage’ of its destined evolutionary path. The genotype will, at some point, express lungs rather than gills.

The analogy seems to be with how different bits of a genetic sequence can lie dormant in a single organism until some point during its lifespan. Puberty in mammals, for example: the genes for gamete production are present from birth but inactive until later; or an insect with a larval stage like a caterpillar which has the genes for wings, but they aren’t expressed.

Timescales, in Terry Nation Evolution, are flexible: you can speed a species (or, indeed, a single organism) through its pre-programmed evolutionary stages by applying a stimulus (usually radiation, but hey, it was the sixties). Or it could take millions of years. But the distinctive feature of Terry Nation Evolution isn’t anything to do with how quickly it happens, it’s to do with this idea lf pre-programmed stages that a species is destined to go through until its ‘final form’.

Anyway I only mention it because it’s quite a weird specific misunderstanding of evolution that I thought was unique to Terry Nation, so to discover that it was also held by someone else at roughly the same time makes me wonder if there was a common source.

Or maybe ideas have pre-programmed stages that they go through, and this is the final form of the idea of evolution.

Saturday, 23 April, 2022

Blogger postodave said...

Thanks SK, that's really interesting. It is an idea that seems to be there. I remember hearing this kind of thing talked about years ago. For example people would say, 'human beings only use about one tenth of their brain, but maybe that is there because it will be needed in the future.' That kind of idea must come from somewhere. And it also seems to be present is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNxLjniK5mM&t=420s

Saturday, 23 April, 2022

Blogger Unknown said...

The Tomorrow People are clearly the same sort of folks as in John Wyndham's The Chrysalids, which surely just about every school-age child of that era had read?

At least, that is certainly what I thought.


Having worked in media, I would be leery of assuming that anything depicted on screen represents what "writer/producer X believes." It is more likely to represent "the minimum required to resolve an episode in dramatic fashion within a highly budget-constrained amount of spoken lines, after multiple rewrites were made to reduce the length of the script's final draft."

Thursday, 05 May, 2022

Blogger Andrew Rilstone said...

I think the Tomorrow People was pitched younger than John Wyndam; although Village of the D..Cursed was quite often shown on TV.

I think there was a certain amount of autonomy for low budget TV productions in the 1970s -- we know that Monty Python (on the one hand) and Oliver Postgate (on the other) pretty much got to do whatever they liked. Roger Price certainly had some Beliefs -- he did a kids comedy series called You Must Be Joking which was largely pie-in-the-face slapstick but which smuggled a certain amount of Little Red Schoolbook radicalism under the radar. And one of the novels spends some time explaining what a good idea Progressive Schools were. But I am sure you are right that there is a lot of compromise involved in making a TV show, and it would be wrong to assume that (say) Star Trek existed mainly to make points about communism and civil rights.

Friday, 06 May, 2022