Loran, Disciple of History

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TheForsakenOne on You Shall Not Pass

2 weeks ago

What I'd cut:

Pilgrim's Eye: Not a very good rate, and it doesn't even ramp

Eldrazi Displacer: You don't have enough colorless mana producers to make this consistent, and there are better flicker effects you have acess to

Eight-and-a-Half-Tails: Clunky protection when it isn't really needed

Avacyn, Angel of Hope: Sadly just a win-more card in this case. If it sticks around sure you're probably going to win but you'll be enemy #1 and you're likely not going to survive that

Sword of Feast and Famine: Probably the most overpriced of the swords, and the most likely to draw hate. It looks good on paper but without a way to capitalize on it you're going to bite off more than you can chew.

The Wanderer: Not worth the 4 mana. There are just better cards that could be run.

Ephemeral Shields is kind of a weird addition. Its just not very good.

2-3 Plains: 38 is just a bit high for a deck that peaks at 3 cmc cards. Maybe add more ramp instead

Suggestions to add

The MDFC's are just great to have due to their flexibility: https://scryfall.com/search?as=gridℴ=name&q=type%3Aland+commander%3AW+%28game%3Apaper%29+is%3Amdfc

You don't have that many ways to sacrifice artifacts despite having several triggers off of. The standards are Trading Post, Arcbound Ravager and for this deck Oswald Fiddlebender is great because it tutors out another artifact for free. Kuldotha Forgemaster is a must because it can turn some of your dud artifacts into a portal or blighsteel, and at instant speed too.

Metalwork Colossus is just fun, plus with all your expendable artifacts it can be quite persistent

Wurmcoil Engine is just great, and doubling that death trigger is fantastic. Can't play its new little brother, because he's black, but the original is still a classic

Threefold Thunderhulk has two ETB's that can be copied, and he's a sacrifice outlet. I would also recommend Hangarback Walker since you can double the death trigger

If you put in enough Artifact sacrifices cards like Scrap Trawler, Myr Retriever, and Loran, Disciple of History to recur them back to your hand. Also consider Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender for payoffs to all that sacrificing.

Its a dead horse, but Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are never bad choices.

SirFowler on Need help with Samwise Gamgee

9 months ago

I forgot. I already replaced Loran, Disciple of History with Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle, but other than that, the rest of the deck remained the same. I'm not sure why Teshar's link is broken, but it seemed to fit well in this deck.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from with these picks. Personally I liked having Avacyn, Angel of Hope as a sort of insurance against opponents so that you can control when your stuff dies, but it is a little pricey to cast.

I can see cutting cutting these cards. I'll see about getting some cards that you suggested. Thanks for your help.

Also, I was able to find some cheap replacements for Archangel of Thune with stuff like Lathiel, the Bounteous Dawn/Nykthos Paragon. Thoughts?

enpc on Need help with Samwise Gamgee

9 months ago

Personally, I would cut:

• Daxos, Blessed by the Sun - He's a glorified blocker

• Avacyn, Angel of Hope - indestructible is nice but especially if you go down the graveyard combo route you don't really care. And that mana cost.

• Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant  ^Flip - There are better cards if you really care about this effect but I feel like this card is in the deck only because it's legendary

• Nettlecyst - If you're looking at churning through tokens, this card isn't as good as if you're just amassing them. And I think you want to be benefiting from cracking food

• At least one of your wrath effects - you have a lot and you don't need that many, especially if you're trying to make the deck faster

• Loran, Disciple of History -I'm on the fence about this one - if you wanted to lean into Myr Retriever like artifact combo stuff then keep it, otherwise Sammy-boi already does this enough.

• Karametra, God of Harvests - You need more dorks to make her work. If you wanna add more cards like Llanowar Elves, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Elvish Mystic etc. then keep her, but right now she doesn't do enough. She's also always been a catch 22 card and I think unless you build around her, she hinders more than helps.

• Mirari's Wake - you're not really a lands themed deck and if you go down the graveyard loops then you'll wanna add Skullclamp. And dumb as this might sound, antheming your creatures can disable clamp's value.

In general, I think you need to pick between leaning into the lands effects (which is doable but will require some reworking) or going for food token artifact engines. The deck is currently sitting in this awkard spot where it kind of does both but doesn't do either well. And that will probably help cutting some cards.