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1v1 Commander | Legal |
Archenemy | Legal |
Arena | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Historic | Legal |
Historic Brawl | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pioneer | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Clifftop Retreat
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Clifftop Retreat enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Mountain or a Plains.
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DemonDragonJ on Innistrad Remastered Speculation and Wishlist
2 weeks ago
I was very impressed with both Dominaria Remastered and Ravnica Remastered, and WotC has announced that there shall be an Innistrad Remastered, as well, so I now wish to begin speculation about that set.
First, there are seven sets from which cards in Innistrad Remastered can be reprinted: Innistrad, Dark Ascension, Avacyn Restored, Shadows Over Innistrad, Eldritch Moon, Innistrad: Midnight Hunt, and Innistrad: Crimson Vow, which should allow for plenty of excellent cards to be included in the set.
I very much would like to see both the "check lands" (Clifftop Retreat, Hinterland Harbor, Isolated Chapel, Sulfur Falls, and Woodland Cemetery) as well as the utility lands (Grim Backwoods, Kessig Wolf Run, Vault of the Archangel, and so forth) that were printed initially in various sets on Innistrad reprinted in this set, as well as some of the better-known and more powerful angels, demons, vampires, werewolves, and zombies from the various sets, including the original versions of all four of the legendary angels (Bruna, Gisela, Sigarda, and Lisa).
This set is still many months away, being released early in 2025, so it may be too early to speculate, just yet, but I still wish to begin a discussion of it, so what are everyone else's wishes for this set? What cards would you like to see be reprinted in Innistrad Remastered?
Master_J on
Laser Beams
1 month ago
OUT: Sungrass Prairie, Mossfire Valley, 2x Forest, 2x Plains
IN: Temple Garden, Sunpetal Grove, Stomping Ground, Rootbound Crag, Sacred Foundry, Clifftop Retreat
Taking out some of the sub-par lands for more variety and generally better lands overall. Even though there's very little red in this deck, a few of those red cards have double pips in their cost, so trying to bring up my red base a little.
Monomanamaniac on
Here we go A-Ghen (Arcanum Weaver)
2 months ago
So I'm not absolutely sure what you were looking for, or what your budget is, so I just grabbed as many decently affordable cards that I could find and brought them for you to check out. I mostly picked out things that might help you close the game with life loss or give you value from in looping. It's too bad Thousand-Year Elixir isn't more affordable Agent of Erebos Ajani's Chosen Archon of Sun's Grace Ashiok's Reaper Boros Garrison Carmen, Cruel Skymarcher Caves of Koilos Cemetery Tampering Clifftop Retreat Curse of Opulence Darksteel Mutation Debtors' Knell Doomwake Giant Dragonskull Summit Exotic Orchard Fellwar Stone Grim Guardian Hopeless Nightmare Isolated Chapel Mesa Enchantress Myriad Landscape Open the Vaults Orzhov Basilica Rakdos Carnarium Resurgent Belief Ruinous Ultimatum Smoldering Marsh Spirited Companion Starfield Mystic Talisman of Conviction Talisman of Hierarchy Talisman of Indulgence Underworld Coinsmith Wicked Visitor
DemonDragonJ on
"Wake Up, Wasteland! It's Me, Three Dog!"
3 months ago
I like this deck, but I do have several suggestions or questions:
Have you considered putting Celestial Mantle in this deck, or is that aura too expensive?
Would you consider Commander's Sphere or Chromatic Lantern over Boros Signet, or are you seeking to keep the mana curve of this deck low?
Are you certain that you can reliably cast all of your spells with only 32 lands, and, on that subject, would you consider putting Clifftop Retreat into this deck?
CommanderNeyo on
These Hands Rated S for Speed
7 months ago
Howdy! Note that you cannot use Archangel of Wrath, because although it is a white creature it has black in its color identity because of the {{b}} kicker cost.
Have you considered adding Sol Ring, Boros Signet, and Talisman of Conviction? They are excellent mana options.
I also would consider adding (2) more lands - your commander is (5) mana, so you want to make sure you can cast her.
Also, giving Karlach haste will speed up the gameplan - consider cards such as Lightning Greaves or Rising of the Day. I especially recommend Rising of the Day, because it also gives your commander +1 power - so you can one-shot a player every turn with commander damage.
You have a generally high average mana cost for the deck, so I would consider removing some of the higher cost cards or add more ramp, such as Worn Powerstone and Thran Dynamo.
I would consider removing Earth Tremor and replacing it with Swords to Plowshares. Generally you want your removal spells to be around 1 or 2 mana, so that you aren't spending all the mana in your turn just to remove one threat.
I would also consider updating the lands you have - there are lots of cheap lands to consider, such as: Command Tower, Needle Spires, Battlefield Forge, Temple of Triumph, Clifftop Retreat, Boros Garrison, Furycalm Snarl, Wind-Scarred Crag, Sacred Peaks, Boros Guildgate, Alpine Meadow, Stone Quarry, Rustvale Bridge, and Lorehold Campus.
Hope this was useful!
treeforcorvus on
Mardu Vehicles Commander
10 months ago
This deck looks really cool! I really love how incredibly affordable your deck is. For a few more dollars you can add amazing improvements that will significantly improve your deck's power. There's two cards, however, that are a must:
First, Sunforger will cast ANY instant you run, allowing answers straight from your deck AND enables Vial Smasher the Fierce if used outside your turn. Path of Mettle Flip is a decent repellant, but only if you flip it. More likely it will be an inconsistent killer or chip damage, which will only antagonize your foes, and worse it doesn't synergize with either Partner. Sunforger also makes Akiri and Jor kadeen happy, and its versatility will serve you more accurately.
Second, Mistveil Plains (searchable by Oreskos Explorer btw) pairs spectacularly with Sunforger, allowing you to recycle spent instants. Spectacular.
I recommend these replacements, which give big improvements:
- Mercadian Bazaar and Subterranean Hangar perform better than Dwarven Hold and Bottomless Vault, and are cheaper to boot!
- Terramorphic Expanse for 1 plains: better mana fixing means less mulligans. You only have 1 card that casts for W (Skullclamp), which makes Terra Expanse's versatility a superior pick.
- Clifftop Retreat for Battlefield Forge: you have nothing that requires glass.
- Isolated Chapel instead of Caves of Koilos: same as above.
- Molten Slagheap instead of Icatian Store: you still have enough plains.
- Conspiracy Theorist repaces Underworld Rage-Hound: Theorist give its 2nd option to most discard you make, can be buffed by Olivia, is cheaper to enable & is more durable than the Hound.
- Demonic Collusion or Increasing Ambition instead of Diabolic Tutor: the first synergizes with your discard theme & the second one gives more searches in a more flexible mana cost.
- Phyrexian Arena instead of Dark Tutelage. Unless your pod runs only wheel decks, Arena is far superior.
- Greasefang, Okiba Boss replaces Pyre Zombie (not enough synergy, too expensive*).
*First of all, Sun Titan and Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle will almost always better targets to reanimate. Second, compare Pyre Zombie to Torment of Hailfire: For 7BB (the cost of return/cast/sac), you'd get 7 instances of "Each opponent loses 3 life unless that player sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card". While Hailfire is a prohibitively expensive card, it still highlights how inefficient Pyre Zombie is without your reanimators. Considering the # of vehicles you run, Greasefang is much better.
eliakimras on
Equipped Samurai
11 months ago
Since your deck is a fast one, consider running lands that don't enter the battlefield tapped:
- Bloodfell Caves -> Sulfurous Springs
- Wind-Scarred Crag -> Battlefield Forge
- Scoured Barrens -> Caves of Koilos
- Evolving Wilds -> Smoldering Marsh
- Thriving Bluff -> Foreboding Ruins
- Thriving Heath -> Furycalm Snarl
- Thriving Moor -> Shineshadow Snarl
- Black Dragon Gate -> Dragonskull Summit
- Citadel Gate -> Clifftop Retreat
- Cliffgate -> Ash Barrens
You might also want to run some utility lands:
- Temple of Malice -> Bojuka Bog (good against graveyard decks)
- Temple of Triumph -> Axgard Armory (tutor on a land)
- Temple of Silence -> Sejiri Shelter Flip (protection spell that can be played as a land)
- Temple of the False God -> Rogue's Passage (free evasion)
- Mountain -> Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion (double strike on demand)
- Swamp -> Buried Ruin (recursion)
Also, since speed is the name of the game for Voltron decks, consider those swaps in your ramp package:
Last_Laugh on
Atraxa toxic
1 year ago
Are the lands accurate? 24 basics in 4 colors is gonna be clunky and make it hard to reliably hit all 4 colors. I don't recommend multiple triomes due to etb tapped. There's a LOT of 2 color cycles that don't enter tapped (you can run 6 of any cycle in 4 colors) and any color lands. Checklands like Clifftop Retreat, Filterlands like Twilight Mire, Painlands like Caves of Koilos, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, and City of Brass are all budget(ish) friendly options. Obviously fetchlands and shockslands are ideal but cost a lot more.
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