Changeling Outcast

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DreadKhan on Sauron, the Dark Lord

1 week ago

Changeling Outcast isn't from Lord of the Rings, but you can put Army counters on it because it's also an army. You can also try Mistwalker and/or Taurean Mauler, though they aren't as evasive.

Cool list, always neat to see a strong Sauron deck!

DreadKhan on Edh options

1 week ago

He's not heavily played, but Kresh the Bloodbraided can do some absolutely nutso things when he's big enough, and the deck often has some control elements (especially vs creatures, the deck wants to kill off everything but Kresh typically). It can be built on a budget (for Casual play) or as a High Power deck. On a budget you run all of the Merciless Executioner effects you can find, and at higher power you'll still run a bunch of them, but you'll also have Dictate of Erebos effects. Rite of the Raging Storm by itself turns Kresh into a huge body, and it's easy to include lots of Flings/Chandra's Ignition/Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord to win, but you can also use stuff like Mandate of Abaddon to wipe the board and one-shot someone, there are a TON of cards that play very well with Kresh, and people probably aren't familiar with the deck at this point.

Another option might be Azorius Control, Azorius is a great pair for wipes, removal and countermagic, meaning you can deal with problems, both for yourself as well as the table. I guess you might go something like Shorikai, Genesis Engine and play any vehicles that don't suck? You can freely wipe your pilots without risking your vehicles, even without things like Teferi's Protection. The card draw Shorikai offers can really help you dig, and it synergizes with untap effects.

My final idea would be something like Sauron, the Dark Lord, Grixis gives you a lot of control options, and Sauron makes you a big honking army very readily, and fwiw you can make an evasive Changeling (like Changeling Outcast) your Army in place of a token. Grixis struggles a bit vs certain types of permanents, but you can certainly pressure people and have input as to what stays around.

Oh yeah, just thought of a bad idea I've never gotten around to testing, but you might be able to build Optimus Prime, Hero  ^Flip with all the Jeskai wipes you can find? Optimus can 'survive' a wipe, so as long as you can give him Haste somehow you can swing each turn vs a cleared board, wiping whenever anyone gets anything relevant out. Would it be obnoxious? Incredibly so. But I think it could work, especially since you have Red for various good Haste sources. You probably need lots of things to protect Optimus from Swords effects, including a smattering of Blue counters that are either free or cost {U} so you can hold them up.

Taking a look at other people's ideas, I support Karazikar and Breena, both seem like great fits!

SufferFromEDHD on

3 months ago

Changeling Outcast solid rat.

Species Specialist serious card draw.

Crippling Fear/Kindred Dominance tribal destruction.

Haunting Voyage tribal reanimation.

Cover of Darkness tribal evasion.

Deserted Temple utility.

Vesuva utility/Inkmoth #2

Jet Medallion ramp.

Gate to Phyrexia artifact destruction in

Contamination control.

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

3 months ago

IN

Anointed Procession
Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
Touch the Spirit Realm
Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines
Stonehewer Giant
Stalactite Stalker
Dauthi Voidwalker
Inti, Seneschal of the Sun
Firebrand Archer
Strangleroot Geist
Wrenn and Realmbreaker
Molten Collapse
Murderous Redcap
Bartolome del Presidio
Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Radha, Heart of Keld
Boseiju, Who Endures
Otawara, Soaring City
Kaldra Compleat

OUT

Seeker of the Way
Archetype of Courage
Banishing Light
Shalai, Voice of Plenty
Reveillark
Changeling Outcast
Eliminate
Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner
Mizzium Tank
Vivien, Champion of the Wilds
Archetype of Endurance
Rakdos Charm
Angrath's Rampage
Sin Collector
Anguished Unmaking
Ancient Grudge
Pendelhaven
Teferi's Isle
Eater of Virtue

legendofa on Ruling From the Shadows

4 months ago

How much are you keeping this deck up to date? I had a very similar inspiration, and the last few sets have added some interesting new toys. If you want to compare notes, mine's at Above such mortal concerns. (I did allow myself the luxury of Cavern of Souls, Voldaren Estate, and Blood Celebrant, so it's able to cast Edgar in a pinch, but the spirit's still there.)

How well do cards like Vampire of the Dire Moon and Changeling Outcast work for this deck?

DreadKhan on Sauron, The Dark Lord Commander Deck

5 months ago

I feel like this deck should look pretty hard at Relic of Sauron, it's one of the best mana rocks for a Grixis deck, it also offers card draw and a discard outlet when you don't need the mana. I also feel like you might want more ramp, but I'm not sure I'd shave the land count too much further. I do have much higher average MV decks with similar land counts, they tend to run a lot of ramp though!

I've always liked the idea of evasive Changelings in this deck, the best being Changeling Outcast, but Mistwalker is also good, Mothdust Changeling less so but still interesting, evasion is really good on an Army in here. Taurean Mauler might be worth throwing in too, any of these is infinitely better than trying to use a token as the base for your army. Amoeboid Changeling can make any creature an army (to trigger Sauron). You might even try Maskwood Nexus, you can always choose not to wheel your hand away if you're happy with it (could be an issue if you're getting in with several armies in a turn).

Since Sauron discards your hand before he draws a new one you might want to look into some recursion effects, Black is very good at that kind of thing. Sheoldred, Whispering One is a nice easy-button recursion card that also hassles your opponents, but she is slow and a ton of mana, but you can reanimate her with something like Animate Dead or Reanimate. Since Sauron can make you a new token whenever someone casts a spell (if you don't already have one) you could use sacrifice based recursion effectively, Hell's Caretaker could do some work. These are just a few low hanging fruit, if you need a bunch more (or cheaper ones) I could probably rattle off more.

With this much built in discard you might look at the better Delve cards, Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time come to mind immediately, both are pretty good card draw if you don't have to pay any generic mana in.

Mask of Griselbrand can work well as a draw source, it also gives two useful abilities for an Army. Not sure if this is too out there, but you could try Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep and Shizo, Death's Storehouse, if you make an Army your Ringbearer it becomes Legendary, meaning these lands don't just help Sauron (but making Sauron unblockable is inherently good in a deck like this because he has 7 power and he's a 3 hit kill). Fear from Shizo is probably better than First Strike in most metas, but First Strike is a very useful effect. Rogue's Passage is a nice budget card that can let Sauron or an Army get in each turn. I really have enjoyed using Scavenged Brawler, it would be very good with your Commander (if he can get in twice he can kill someone, regardless of their life total), but it'll also be useful with a good sized Army token, those key word abilities are pretty sweet in my experience. Dauthi Embrace is a nifty old card that can be very sneaky, you can use it to help opponents get in, not just to protect your creature from blockers. If you plan to attack and are in Red you might benefit from Berserkers' Onslaught, double strike on your entire board can be a very powerful effect.

If you want a way to protect Sauron from most board wipes, I really love Gift of Doom, this gem of a card can be cast as a Morph for 3 mana, after which you can sacrifice a creature to attach the aura to a creature (note that this method doesn't target the creature it attaches to, so you can get around Shroud on your creature) at literally any time you have priority iirc. It's also not a spell or ability, so you can use it in response to something with Split Second. Indestructible is very good, but if you can get Deathtouch on a creature with trample it only takes 1 point of damage to 'destroy' any creature (regardless of whether or not it dies), the rest goes over, so it has great synergy with Scavenged Brawler (and other Trample sources). You can always cast it for 5 mana, and it's not a terrible card in that form, but the Morph effect is one of the best ways to protect an individual creature (or to turn your opponent's block attempt into a blood bath).

Finally, Mercadian Bazaar, Subterranean Hangar, and Saprazzan Cove are my spiciest ideas for a deck like this, I will take no offense if you laugh at them, but you might be surprised by what they can do in a deck with a 6 mana Commander. I use the first two as well as two Fallen Empires storage lands (which I wouldn't encourage you to use unless you want gray hair) in my Rakdos deck, I play them as ramp cards, and it's openly hilarious how useful they can be if you really want to cheese out a big Commander (or recast them repeatedly).

Hope some of this brainstorming is helpful, Sauron is a pretty strong Commander that attracts a fair bit of attention afaik.

Apollo_Paladin on Bad Moon Mercenaries

6 months ago

Changeling Outcast would be a better 1-drop than those Rampart Crawlers. Changeling makes him still just as fetchable, but he's unblockable against everything instead of just walls.

DreadKhan on sauron, the thot lord

7 months ago

Maskwood Nexus can make all of your creatures into Armies fwiw, and Changelings count as armies, Taurean Mauler and Changeling Outcast can do good work. Mistwalker also has evasion, but it's also a 3 mana 1/4 that is much easier to block than Outcast, but technically whenever you Amass you can add tokens to Mistwalker so I felt I should still mention it.