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Requests for permissions

I have been fighting against LTA named 대우건설 (Report about this user on meta and enwiki report) globally since Jan 2014. Today, I requested MusikAnimal to create new filter to prevent his socking patterns (I believe, nobody with Korean knowledge would speak "GO AWAY FUCKING MAN" on enwiki except vandals) and he created Special:Abusefilter/648 (private). I would like to see the abuselog of this filter and amend new patterns as needed. I am sysop on Korean Wikipedia, Commons, Meta-wiki, Wikidata, and two small wikis, and have touched few abusefilters.  Revi 13:10, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I support. -Revi and I have talked about 대우건설 on and off wiki, and it's clear there's a real need for this permission. There's nothing complex about this filter in particular, so we're not worried about having vast experience working with regex. Beyond that with such high level of trust across wikis there is little concern -revi will blindly create some new untested filter or one that would otherwise have an adverse effect. — MusikAnimal talk 16:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @-revi: Your SUL information looks good, and I've got no concerns with you being able to view the logs. Which other projects have you actively edited/created filters on? — xaosflux Talk 04:12, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    My work is mostly on Korean Wikis. I have created 3 filters on Korean Wikinews. #4 prohibits non-sysop editing File: and File talk: Namespace, since non-sysop cannot upload files, and there is only one file - Wiki.png (logo). #5 prohibits userpage vandals for contribs less than 30 edits & username does not match pagename, and #6 warns and tags some kind of repeated policy violations (it's private for some reasons). Also, #2 says last editor is Hym411, which is my former username. That detects blanking and disallow it. Probably Abusefilter did not changed username on rename. I have edited few strings for kowiki, that's not major addition, but adding a string for #50 (equivalent for #648 here) and some other maintenance work.  Revi 04:37, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Please note, it is customary for this request to last at least a week before actioned. — xaosflux Talk 04:55, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I have read WP:FILTER and found that. This is not a emergency thing, and I can wait :)  Revi 05:01, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done Please note, this right allows access to a tool that can be very disruptive with even the slightest of error, it is not the place to be bold in updates, please use with extreme care - when in doubt bring it to discussion first, and make use of log only mode for anything new that you build first. — xaosflux Talk 05:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Vandalism filter

Hi

I had to revdel this edit a couple of days ago. I then went to check the edit filter for this user and noticed that none of the filters had picked up on anything. Surely one of the filters should have picked up on this vandalism? 5 albert square (talk) 19:37, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say only the second part of that diff would be able to feasibly be detected as vandalism by an edit filter. Problem is at least one of those obscenities is also part of the name of a notable music group. You might able to add that phrase to Special:AbuseFilter/260, but I wouldn't really consider that to be a common vandalism phrase. The other edit filter that comes to mind is Special:AbuseFilter/380, maybe that could be tweaked to match this. — MusikAnimal talk 19:46, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @MusikAnimal:. Never edited one of the filters before. How do I add the phrase? 5 albert square (talk) 21:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pending changes block

I'm working on a 'mild block' proposal that is to classic block what pending changes protection is to classic protection. I'm posting here because it is suggested that the edit filter be granted the ability to pending changes block (as well as users in a new usergroup, and some anti-vandalism bots). My draft is at User:Cenarium/PCB and I welcome any input before going ahead with the proposal. If there are any technically minded users, I'd particularly appreciate feedback on the suggested implementation. Cenarium (talk) 22:08, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Block after repeated attempts to spam?

Is there a way for a filter to take an action only after an account or IP triggers the criteria on multiple edit attempts? (Not necessarily on the same pagename, as spammers typically try a different pagename each time.)

E.g. a spammer makes 30 attempts to create a spam page and are prevented each time, but on the 31st attempt they are successful. Instead, is there a way to block them after the nth attempt? (E.g. on the 15th attempt.)

This is for a non-Wikipedia wiki. Maybe the answer is that we need some other kind of bot in addition to our AbuseFilter? Many thanks. --Chriswaterguy talk 04:14, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We use a bot to report users triggering some filters multiple times at WP:AIV, Mr.Z-bot (talk · contribs), see User:Mr.Z-bot/filters.js. Cenarium (talk) 18:07, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Blocking is an available action of the AbuseFilter, however the configuration on enwiki has not allowed it here. — xaosflux Talk 21:18, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the replies. Mr.Z-bot looks awesome - I'll look into that. --Chriswaterguy talk 08:54, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]