Haven of the Spirit Dragon

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FadingReality on Dragons, Dragons, Dragons

1 week ago

I like every single creature in the deck at this point. I have 5 suggestions: 4 for your land base and 1 for removal. Somewhat expensive suggestions but nothing too crazy.

RiotRunner789 on Similar cards to Sigil of …

4 months ago

Hall of Heliod's Generosity, Crystal Chimes: Enchantment creatures maybe?

Haven of the Spirit Dragon: Again, with type restrictions. There are also just a ton of effects on artifacts that return artifacts from grave to hand such as Junk Diver which works if your using artifact creatures.

Sword of Light and Shadow: Definetly what you want as long as you attack.

Reinforcements: Not to hand but close. Close enough maybe?

Dawn Evangel, Angel of Flight Alabaster: Yes, but with restrictions.

Remember the Fallen: Yes.

What is your deck trying to do?

nuperokaso on Dragons,Speed, and Control

6 months ago

In a two-color deck, you should play a lot of non-basic lands such as Dragonskull Summit, Blackcleave Cliffs, Haunted Ridge so that you are always mana fixed and still can afford to play a few non-basic lands with abilities, such as Haven of the Spirit Dragon. Temple of the Dragon Queen is bad in a two-color deck. Blightstep Pathway  ^Flip is going to be always untapped.

PhyrexianHellkite on 50$ Budget The Ur-Dragon

8 months ago

I have tested creatures/cards like that in the past and don't like the staying power or what they are adding to this deck. The creature versions get board-wiped the fastest and don't tend to extend the deck past extra mana available, so I prefer to start getting bigger game impact dragons out and only ramp via land ramp and some artifacts. Mainly to help with my mana fixing, draw, and one sided board-wipes. See the list of cards that those would not interact with other than Scaled Nurturer, that one gets the dragon pass but not card draw and would take up one of the 30 dragon slots. Garruk's Uprising, Elemental Bond, Frontier Siege, Wrathful Red Dragon, Silumgar, the Drifting Death, Rith, Liberated Primeval, Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Ganax, Astral Hunter, Firkraag, Cunning Instigator, Dromoka, the Eternal, Bladewing the Risen, Atarka, World Render, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Relic of Legends, Jade Orb of Dragonkind, Carnelian Orb of Dragonkind, Crux of Fate, The Ur-Dragon

So 20 cards or 1/5th of the deck that those would not extend or interact with. Here is a link for some statistics for mana reducers that basically says if you can play cards every turn and use all mana you have as well then they work the best in those types of decks.

Is it worth it to play cost reducers in MTG EDH commander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prltKyeJMKI

Form about this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/b3stji/cost_reducers_vs_ramp/

Thanks for the comments! Hope this gives some insight on my deck building/playing style and if you run those mana dorks/cost reducers, I think cards like can help and, I do run them in other decks with less colors or better card draw. I do think a commander like Tiamat would benefit from those to help play the tutored cards after cast and help commander tax to recast it and refill your hand. The main thing I consider is what am I swapping, and in this deck and it's mana fixing for a 5 color deck on a 50$ budget, or a potential dragon slot for a deck that wants dragons on the field attacking to start getting ramped up.

I will continue to update this deck and work to give better descriptions of my other decks as well as I build and update my commander arsenal!

eliakimras on Ur dragon, need recommendations

1 year ago

Hello! I saw your deck help tag and wanted to give some insight.

I don't run Miirym as commander, but I do have her in the 99 in Smashing Faces with the Ur-Dragon, and she always pushes me to victory whenever she's allowed to stick on the battlefield.

Some areas you might want to change to improve your consistency:

1 - Ramp

• Farseek and Fellwar Stone are great for fixing for multiple colors of mana. You might take out Birds of Paradise (dies so easily), Sakura-Tribe Elder (fixes for only one color) and Sword of Once and Future (no synergy with dragons) for them.
• Skyshroud Claim is great for the same reasons above. Frontier Siege never impressed me in a multicolor deck, because I often need colors outside of .
• If you run the suggestions above, you probably need more fetchable dual lands: Ketria Triome, Breeding Pool, Steam Vents, Stomping Ground, Sheltered Thicket, Wooded Ridgeline.
• If you run Into the North, you can also use Highland Forest, Rimewood Falls, Volatile Fjord and some snow basics (Snow-Covered Forest, Snow-Covered Island, Snow-Covered Mountain) to fetch.

2 - Draw/Haste

• It is tough to cast Tribute to the World Tree in a 3-color deck without Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth or Chromatic Lantern on the battlefield. Maybe you want Temur Ascendancy instead.

3 - Removal/Boardwipes

• Chain Reaction cleans your own dragons. Curse of the Swine should get rid of your opponents' most problematic creatures. If you face a lot of token decks, Surtland Frostpyre is a boardwipe on a land that leaves most of your dragons alive.
• Green Sun's Twilight could be Chaos Warp as a second Beast Within.

4 - Protection

• In my dragons deck, I often want protection and haste for more than one creature. Swiftfoot Boots got swapped out for Asceticism.
• Slip Out the Back could instead be Heroic Intervention (it has good synergy with Blasphemous Act).
• If you don't want to be attacked, Propaganda might deter more attackers than Fog.
• Can you cast Counterspell and Bane's Contingency reliably? Swan Song or Arcane Denial might be easier to cast considering your manabase.

5 - Card draw

• Rishkar's Expertise, Garruk, Primal Hunter and Return of the Wildspeaker are the cream of the crop of green card draw. You might want to remove Blur, Essence Flux and Ghostly Flicker for them. (Instead of running flicker effects to save your creatures, it might be better to just run more threats in case they are dealt with - and card draw helps with that.)

6 - Better threats

• Dragon Broodmother creates tokens at a much faster pace than Dragonmaster Outcast.
• Korlessa, Scale Singer never impressed me. Knollspine Dragon is way better at drawing cards.
• Overwhelming Stampede wins games harder than Thundermaw Hellkite.
• I would take out Flameblast Dragon for Utvara Hellkite.

7 - Some utility lands you might want to run

• Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory and Secluded Courtyard fix your colors.
• Haven of the Spirit Dragon fixes your colors and bring Dragons back from the dead.
• Littjara Mirrorlake clones one of your Dragons.
• Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape ramp you into Miirym.

Grind on DragonFire Burn

1 year ago

For utility lands you might consider Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Path of Ancestry, Scavenger Grounds, Mystic Sanctuary.
I also might consider Reality Shift, Resculpt, or Starstorm over shivan fire and dwindle.
Cheers!!

legendofa on Changling Tribal Help Wanted pls

1 year ago

What kind of budget are you looking at for this? Some interesting lands are Flamekin Village, Primal Beyond, Unholy Grotto, and Haven of the Spirit Dragon. I also suggest the other one-mana changelings, Universal Automaton and Mothdust Changeling. If you shave down a few of the three-mana lords and such, and add a couple more lands and 1-2 mana spells, I think your deck will be able to accelerate and apply pressure more efficiently.

kamarupa on Flight of Dragons

1 year ago

I'd only run 2x Haven of the Spirit Dragon and I suggest cutting two basic mountains for it. Since you have 23 non-dragon spells, Haven will make casting them slightly harder. To me, the biggest benefit of Haven isn't the mana-fixing so much as getting a dragon back from your graveyard. Just having it down dampens opponents zeal to use removal spells.